Halandaar Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Not sure how the Graviton Collapse works, actually; is it S+ (3D6 pick the highest), which would definitely make it useless, or 3D6, which is alot more palatable (and actually give it a 1/2 chance of penning and 1/8 chance of penning a rhino, and 5/54 pen + 5/72 glance on LRs). It doesn't have a strength value so it literally is 3D6 in total. Edit: here's a chart showing the 3D6 probabilities: http://thedarkfortress.co.uk/tech_reports/tech_assets/3-dice-charts.gif Ooh I do like a good chart. This is what i thought was the case (although I neglected to remember the fact that you can't score lower than a 3) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Not sure how the Graviton Collapse works, actually; is it S+ (3D6 pick the highest), which would definitely make it useless, or 3D6, which is alot more palatable (and actually give it a 1/2 chance of penning and 1/8 chance of penning a rhino, and 5/54 pen + 5/72 glance on LRs). It doesn't have a strength value so it literally is 3D6 in total. Edit: here's a chart showing the 3D6 probabilities: http://thedarkfortress.co.uk/tech_reports/tech_assets/3-dice-charts.gif Yeah, when I checked the rules on the small phone screen that symbol kinda looked like a 4... Still, 50%pen/12.5%glance on a rhino is almost as good as S8 (50%/16.7%), and 9.3%pen/6.9%glance on a raider is, compared to the same S8 (0%, 16.7%), better imho (less overall chances of getting a HP, but you now can pen)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Fack, so my first one has to be a choice between an Iron Hand or a Berserker of Uran? Unfair.Easy. Buy one for each :D that way you don't have to choose... ...oh and buy 7 more just in case. Don't tempt me, Furioso Dreads got me into this game in the first place, and I'm yet to go six months without buying some form of Dreadnought 0-o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Fack, so my first one has to be a choice between an Iron Hand or a Berserker of Uran? Unfair.Easy. Buy one for each :D that way you don't have to choose... ...oh and buy 7 more just in case. Don't tempt me, Furioso Dreads got me into this game in the first place, and I'm yet to go six months without buying some form of Dreadnought 0-o "Woooooo I am the ghost of future Christmas dread head lists...you must buy a dreadnought of a different class....or you will suffer for eternityyyyyyy...." Just in time for that holiday guilt trip. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Is it me, or does it look like the ugly baby of a Centurion and a Contemptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Can't wait to see this guys little brother , the other one they announced at the open day. The mini fast dread meant for CC! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 When I found out they had added the option for a pod I pictured this thing ballet dancing and blasting cannons while singing "I'm in your back fiiiiiiieeeelllld!" "Killin' your duuuuudes!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 More importantly did anyone notice what looks like new Death Guard transfers in the 360 rotation of the http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Leviathan-Pattern-Siege-Dreadnought-Body Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 More importantly did anyone notice what looks like new Death Guard transfers in the 360 rotation of the http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Leviathan-Pattern-Siege-Dreadnought-Body Yup. We're next on the list for an upgraded transfer sheet. They previewed it at the Open Day I believe :D Finally, sick banners and tons of Destroyer/Plague Ship decals Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 so 3 with weapons is 216£ and then a transfer sheet and something else small maybe etched brass to get over 250 for the free shipping and I'll get a whole talon now where did you say I can sell my kidneys Slips I remember you saying it would happen and I should have written it down but I didn't so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Is that the regular 60mm Dread base? This is akin to seeing a gorgeous model and only noticing her shoes. Most of us haven't even realised that this Dreadnought has a base yet. Just wondering, because I play Zone Mortalis on a regular basis Same here, I really wanted one of these beasts for ZM. Ah well... I'll still probably pick at least one up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Last I checked, a Walker was not a Monstrous Creature. Why's everyone whinging about 60mm bases for otherwise? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Last I checked, a Walker was not a Monstrous Creature. Why's everyone whinging about 60mm bases for otherwise? Yeah, I remember checking this rule and seeing that it only called out Monstrous Creatures. I wanna say it's one of the rules they use at the studio but haven't bothered to FAQ yet, though. Pretty sure people asked Andy Hoare when the Leviathan was first shown and he said it wasn't ok for ZM because 80mm. So while it's ok now, we can probably expect some kind of update fixing it in... 3-4 years? :P I kinda hope they don't fix it. It might get stuck in a hallway but it totally makes sense that a Legion ship might start waking up its Leviathans after it's been boarded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I suppose it's not the same... if you can even fit an 80mm in most hallways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I'm going to be upset if it's not viable for ZM because I'm buying a Leviathan Dreadnought instead of more Rhinos, and my army is focused more on ZM. I'm pretty sure FW's ZM tiles can just fit 80mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I can put it in dreadnought drop pods... Oh dear... looks like both red and blue teams will be getting an upgrade... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Looks gorgeous. Seriously tempted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Looks gorgeous. Seriously tempted You know it would look great in sea green or crimson ;) Oh man. What about red and sable, an interred member of the Justaerin? Why haven't I seen this yet, why haven't I done this yet. Can we give it a topknot? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 This is one of the first marine releases that I have seen in a while where I have thought to myself I need one of those or three. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I suppose it's not the same... if you can even fit an 80mm in most hallways. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Zone-Mortalis-Blast-Doors-Set 95mm across. Covers 2 squares, which on a 300x300 board are 50mm ea. So, depending on how the board is set up, certain areas can be off limits due to a single wide only. But otherwise, you're sweeet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4224698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 You've made my day. I love you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4225001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tharand Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I picked two of these beasts up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4225194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Looks gorgeous. Seriously tempted You know it would look great in sea green or crimson Oh man. What about red and sable, an interred member of the Justaerin? Why haven't I seen this yet, why haven't I done this yet. Can we give it a topknot? I've done that on one of my SoH contemptors! Topknots are scientifically proven to increase the performance of your models on the tabletop, as well as making you more attractive to members of both genders. No wonder the Sons of Horus were the greatest! Anyway I just caved and bought one, now to spend a couple of weeks debating which Legion to throw it into Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315982-forgeworld-new-releases-13112015-leviathan-dread/page/3/#findComment-4225243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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