Contemptor dread and dedicated transport

[Deekthegreat]

Cannthe contemptor take a Dreadnaught drop pod as a dedicated transport outsode of the orbital strike rite of war? These rigyts of war and how they allow certain things kinda confuse me when i look at them so just checking to make sure i understand it

[1ncarnadine]

Yeah, but your Contemptor is limited to 1 per talon if you take the pod. Orbital Assault allows them to take Dreadclaws as dedicated as well, on top of the regular Dread Pod IIRC

[Deekthegreat]

Ok just wanted to make sure i understood it right

[Hesh Kadesh]

The Contemptor Dreadnought Talon in the LACAL states that a Talon numbering a single Dreadnought may select a Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod as a Dedicated Transport.

 

Fancy how the rules are in the rulebook, and say what you can and cannot do with units. ;)

 

The Rites of War are dead simple (if you play by Rules as Common Sense Dictates, rather than RAW, because the Master of the Legion rule is gibberish). 

 

In order to play a Rite of War, you must have the following;

 

Primary Detachment (the one from which the Warlord is selected) using the Age of Darkness Force Organisation Chart (the one with an additional HQ and Elites choice compared to the Combined Arms detachment most are used to).

The Warlord in said detachment must be a model with the Master of the Legion special rule; this is limited to Praetors, Delegatus Consul upgrades for a Centurion, certain Special Characters for the legions which note that they are Masters of the Legion within their special rule, and Primarchs. If it doesn't have that special rule, and is not the Warlord, you do not get to use a Rite of War. The additional benefit of this is that the Master of the Legion (except Primarchs) get to roll TWICE on their chosen Warlord Trait table, and choose which of those two traits they get to use.

To use the Rite of War, there are certain conditions imposed on your army selection. You cannot breach those at all. They can have an effect on whether you bring allies, fortifications, how many prerequisite units you must take, ranging from additional compulsory troops or HQ's, to requiring that you maintain certain ratio's, particular deployment limitations, or prevent you from taking too many of a certain unit (limited Consul access). Provided those limitations are met, you can gain the benefits of your Rite of War (listed under "Effects") when making your list.

 

So; Orbital Strike.

 

Limitations; if you can't Deep Strike in some manner, you cannot be taken in the ARMY. Certain units have access to Deep Strike innately; those with the Jump unit type or the Jetbike have Deep Strike natively without needing upgrade. As a result of this Rite of War, Terminators gain the ability to Deep Strike, so can be taken (in a wierd circular argument/divide by zero/self qualification thing that doesn't really bare thinking about). Drop Pods, and most Flyers have the Deep Strike special rule. Provided a unit can be deployed via Deep Strike it can be taken; which allows Transports which can deep strike (said Flyers, or Drop Pods for example) to let things like Rapier Batteries and Tactical Squads be taken; however, as mentioned above, you only get the effects provided by the Rite during army selection while you keep within the limitations. 

 

The other limitation to the Rite of War is that units purchasing a Dedicated Transport (such as a Tactical Squad being enabled to Deploy via Deep Strike via its Dedicated Transport, or a Sons of Horus Terminator Squad deploying via Dreadclaw even though they can normally Deep Strike regardless) must start the game within said Dedicated Transport. It is worthwhile noting that there is no worded requirement for other units to deploy the game in non Dedicated Transports, those such as Rapiers which cannot deploy via Deep strike without said transports are only legal while being deployed via Deep Strike.

 

It's a bit convoluted, but basically, can unit Deep Strike? Yes, it can be taken. No? It can't, unless there is space for it start the game embarked on a transport which must start the game in Deep Strike Reserve, and can Deep Strike itself.

 

The final comment is that it's worthwhile pointing out it affects the ARMY, not just the detachment. So you cannot take an Imperial Militia army at the same time. As ridiculous as that sounds (the stories being full of embattled Ground Troops being supported by Drop Podding Space Marines. Although 40K, the opening to the original Dawn of War was pretty explicit about that. It's annoying, but them's the rules (in other words, ask your close gaming buddies to ignore that rule, most people do unintentionally though). 

 

In addition, you cannot take a Fortification allied detachment.

 

So, provided you follow those limitations (all models must be able to be deployed via Deep Strike in some manner, although unless otherwise required to do so, they do not necessarily need to do so) and no Fortifications, you can;

 

Select Drop Pods as Dedicated Transport for any unit eligible to take a Rhino as a Dedicated Transport normally - that is, most power or artificer armoured unit with a unit size of 10 men or under - and for Rapier Batteries (note that the collective size of the Gun+Crew counts as a 5 men per, so a Drop Pod can fit in 2), and Terminator Armoured models gain the Deep Strike special rule.

[Deekthegreat]

Ok well the question was really can he only take it in the rite of war or is it just a normal transport option like rhinos are for tactical squads. But thank you for the clarification. And thank you for explaining the rites of war.