librisrouge Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Heck, I'll take the option of a whole platoon blobing up. Medics for across the board FnP. Two infantry squads providing ablative wounds for multiple heavy weapon squads. Platoon standard helping a bunch of power axes win the day. Good times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4226806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Notice anything? Up for pre-order this week: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4227034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Coming very soon then, that's cool :) I'll be keen to see what this "Cadians" datacard is too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4227098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Coming very soon then, that's cool I'll be keen to see what this "Cadians" datacard is too! That, and the terrain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4227334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hm, anyone want the Command Tank? I will probably be buying a box just for the Tech Priest for my Mechanicum :D Seriously, so pumped to see that old Blanchian TP in plastic :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 I like how White Dwarf states that they won't spoil the story talking about their favorite moments, then immediately tell you that Farsight and Shadowsun end up working together when at least one would try to kill the other on sight. Pask vs Longstrike I'm definitely looking forward to. Burning Dawn and Operation Shadowtalon both have the War Zone Damocles Tau+Skull logo, I wonder if those small rulebooks will be collected superultimate WZD, as well. Also, weird that Farsight's formations would be fit into the Tau Empire rules subbooklet, but White Scars and Raven Guard would be different booklets. Can any of you guys read the trait on the warlord card here? Also, Pask vs Longstrike looks very fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I think Pask :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Pfft. "Tactical genius" my arse. If GW weren't plot armouring them up the wazoo the stupid space fish would be nothing but a faded blood smear on the tracks of His Guard's tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Also, Pask vs Longstrike looks very fun. That's basically an auto-win for Pask. Here's why. Whichever of the two lands the first hit may not kill the other outright, but he will keep that guy shaken/stunned/jinking until the victim loses. So why is that auto-win for Pask? He is required to have a wingman to soak up Longstrike's shooting, so it doesn't matter who shoots first! Now, longstrike's ability to take a wingman helps, but the wingman is optional and you wouldn't necessarily take one in an all-comers list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LiteralMinded Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4229978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Looking at the warlord trait card.....the title appears to be "Master Orator", and the trait appears to be granting fearless, if I'm reading correctly. Now this is definitely not a trait we already have, so we know there's updated warlord traits. What is more....fearless is totally useless in the present command squad set up. Congrats, your 5 squishy guys won't run when there are only 3 left. Which inclines me to think that we really will be able to see combined squads extended to CCS and PCS. That, or the update is giving us the most useless warlord trait imaginable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 And you find it implausible that GW would give us a useless trait? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 I find it fairly implausible simply given the power of everything else that has been put out lately. Also, the use of the term "Master Orator" suggests that it's about inspiring men. Finally, given how the Tau formation is all about combining units, and Guard are a sort of mirror image of the Tau, it wouldn't surprise me if GW made their decurions similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Platoon organization allowing everyone in a platoon to blob up would be awesome. PCS+SWS, 11 men with 7 specials, add ablative infantry to taste. PCS + infantry squads, power axes, priest and commisar, the return of power blobs. Infantry squads + HWSs, heavy weapon squads that don't immediately die. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 It would be, especially the FnP we could. It's possible, but not for certain. But it's the best theory I've got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Okay...so I hate to get people's hopes up, but I want to hear what they think. Not very much in the Mont'ka says anything about Guard, or Astra Militarum. It talks about Cadians, in much the same way that it talks about White Scars and Raven Guard instead of space marines. Probably nothing, but I want to throw it out there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Okay...so I hate to get people's hopes up, but I want to hear what they think. Not very much in the Mont'ka says anything about Guard, or Astra Militarum. It talks about Cadians, in much the same way that it talks about White Scars and Raven Guard instead of space marines. Probably nothing, but I want to throw it out there. The Cadian 333rd sees absolutely not problem with that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It would be, especially the FnP we could. It's possible, but not for certain. But it's the best theory I've got. I also completely okay with them making medics an elite choice that can be attached to other squads, like they are for a lot of the FW armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It would be, especially the FnP we could. It's possible, but not for certain. But it's the best theory I've got. I also completely okay with them making medics an elite choice that can be attached to other squads, like they are for a lot of the FW armies. A medical unit with 6-12" fnp bubble, or multiple medics 1-3 that can be attached to units individually for fnp... Both would be great and make a lot more sense then the current arrangement... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have experience with bubble units with Krieg Quartermasters and Mechanicum Lachrymaerta Adepts, and they get targeted in a hurry. IG don't have a transport option as durable as a Triaros, so I would much prefer the attached medics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenricusTyranicus Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Of course, those would require a new kit, would they not? So we aren't getting that this time around. Maybe in February :P They could also have a version of the formations where every unit is separate, but they share orders and possibly USRs? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Of course, those would require a new kit, would they not? So we aren't getting that this time around. Maybe in February :P They could also have a version of the formations where every unit is separate, but they share orders and possibly USRs? Technically they have medic models in all the command squad kits... But yeah fair enough... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4230668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismogrendel Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Was this already posted? http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Battlegroup-Hammerblow Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4231149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 The Tau, White Scars and Raven Guard got a few really nice formations out of the last campaign book. This next one we've already seen the Tau formations and they are once again a doozy. They get a formation of riptides who get to re-roll their nova reactors and can choose to fire 4 times in one phase at different targets each time. Yikes. So I have high hopes for the IG formations to be suitably ridiculous. Maybe that hammer blow lets the baneblade fire at every enemy unit on the board once. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4231239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Stop it! Now I can't stop smiling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316024-guard-formations-in-montka-confirmed/page/2/#findComment-4231297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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