appiah4 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I really don't like getting invested in GW's paint line, because they are really pricey and get shuffled around too frequently for my taste.. After about 5 years of having nothing to do with them I ended up using their wash line.. until they completely dumped the old paints and rebooted the line with new washes that just weren't the same. So I stocked up on the old washes, and was a happy camper.. Until now. Six months of break from painting, and I return to find most of my washes dried up to some extent. I hate the lid top pots with a passion. So here I am in the market for washes, but I never tried out any alternatives. I'm mostly interested in quality Brown, Orange (flesh), Yellow, Red, Green and Blue washes. I realize that covers most anything anyway, but GW's new line seems to have different shades of the same color here and there - I have no use for that. I want dark washes, end of story. That was long enough for most I guess, so here's the question. What alternative works for you, and where do you get them? Places with shipping to Europe preferred, of course :) Thanks B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 This chart may help your decision. I personally have switched to secret weapon washes and couldn't be happier. http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 This chart may help your decision. I personally have switched to secret weapon washes and couldn't be happier. http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart I've done some research on SW washes and there seems to be lots of complaints due to them being suspensions and not solutions, i.e. they do not settle correctly, and can leave a glossy finish.. Is this true? It seems Army Painter's warpaint ink washes cover pretty much every need I have.. except for a flesh wash, surprisingly enough.. EDIT: Well, their new Ink set actually has the Flesh Wash but they don't ship to where I live, so yeah.. I'll have to grab a different flesh wash I guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 This chart may help your decision. I personally have switched to secret weapon washes and couldn't be happier.http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart I've done some research on SW washes and there seems to be lots of complaints due to them being suspensions and not solutions, i.e. they do not settle correctly, and can leave a glossy finish.. Is this true? It seems Army Painter's warpaint ink washes cover pretty much every need I have.. except for a flesh wash, surprisingly enough.. EDIT: Well, their new Ink set actually has the Flesh Wash but they don't ship to where I live, so yeah.. I'll have to grab a different flesh wash I guess. Thus far I've used both black washes and their stone wash. None has been glossy but I'll let you know if any such things happen. I really hope it doesn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain General Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Make you own? There are several tutorials on making washes on Youtube. CG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Army Painter are the best imo.£1.80 for 17 ml in a dropper bottled.Dark Tone = Badab BlackStrong Tone = Devlan MudSoft Tone = a dark SepiaThey've also got Red, Blue, Green and Purple all of which are quite neutral versions of those colours. Pretty basic, but they get most jobs done.Where do you live that they don't ship? They seem to have a pretty comprehensive delivery range Try your FLGS? Army Painter products seem to be pretty widespread at this point.I have had issues with Secret Weapon washes drying with a very glossy finish The few vallejo washes I've tried have been quite good, but they don't behave quite the same as other companies, so there's a bit of a learning curve with them.P3 do a very good flesh wash.(seemingly no others for some reason).If all else fails you can just make you're own with something like Vallejo glaze medium and some water (some might tell you more complex methods, but whenever I've needed to thin something down to a wash consistency this has done fine). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I've been happy with Army Painter's washes so far. I've only used the classic ones (ie the equivalents to old GW washes) and have yet to try their more recent colours, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I'm a big fan of making your own with oil pants and turpentine/white spirit. Good flow over glossy surfaces (use a gloss finish for a wash, matte for a glaze), and long drying time allows for easy clean up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4227734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'll order the new army painter ink wash set from firestorm games. Called them up about shipping and they were a most cheerful helpful lot. Thanks everyone. Once they arrive and I get to use them I will make a comparison topic to old GW washes. I don't have the new shades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4228037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossjk Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I might be a bit late, but can definitely recommend the washes from Mig Productions. They're enamel based and don't dry nearly as quickly as GW's, and much easier to work with...http://migproductions.com/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4229037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Secrect weapond washes ( personal favorite) Are good I use just about all of them at one point in time, Pros a lot of colors and can be thinned for glazes. Can be use in airbrush with out spalltering all over the place. Just use low PSi Cons. There more like thin paints, very heavy pigments can settle on bottom of pot causing the wash to different colors. Shaking it helps but gets foamy and air bubbles can be pain in dick. AK interaction Pros Easy to use and thin so it won't over power layers, come in oil wash as well. Cons Price if your stateside, colors are set to true life military colors, mixing with fanstay colors can be difficult. Scale 75 colors inks ( highly recommend all of scale color products) Pros very bright colors ( could be con depending ) mixes well with base colors to make glazes and can be use tint colors. Flows nicely off brushes can be airbush at very low psi. Cons Price stateside, limted colors, and can over power colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316151-alternative-washes-and-where-to-buy-them/#findComment-4229425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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