Icarus1138 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Imagine you're the Emperor; the Great Crusade is over and you've successfully unified the galaxy. Now you have 19 kids running around and you've got to find something for them to do. You don't plan on needing an heir, and since they are all aware of that you need to keep them busy in ways that benefit humanity while also making sure they have enough job satisfaction that they don't try to "create a job opening". What do you do with them? A few of my thoughts: Horus: Tricky. The best thing to do is give him an important position that clearly uses his talents, while keeping him close. Command of Segmentum Solar sounds about right, excluding governorship of Terra. Have him command FROM Terra, but Malcador should stay Regent there. Russ, Vulkan, and Corax: These three would likely want to retire to their homeworlds. That would be ideal. Fulgrim: Emperor's Herald. His job would be to travel around the Imperium, meeting with the governors and commanders in order to pass on decrees and remind the aristocracy who's in charge. A perpetual tour of Humanity's finest palaces and galas is something Fulgrim would probably be able to endure. Dorn: Same job as always, command of Terra's defenses. Alpharius/Omegon. Command of the Imperium's intelligence service, obviously. Guilliman: Command of Ultima Segmentum. The Lion: Warmaster. He's a strategic genius, doesn't have the people skills for political office, and during peacetime wouldn't have the same authority Horus had in the position. I'll leave the others off for now, I'm interested to hear other people's takes on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Afaik the Primarchs had a retirement castle @ Terra ^,^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Angron starts the Imperial FightClub. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Angron starts the Imperial FightClub. Damnit man you broke the first rule! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Sanguinius will probably also want to return to Baal, though I bet he'd enjoy traveling the Empire and being an icon of its culture. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Well, think a bit ahead. I do not think there will be nothing to do for them. The Imperium wouldnbe so big, that rebellions and piracy would be inevitable. Some one will have to crack down on those. Then there is the question of lost tech and building it back up. A lot of bureaucracy to handle. Finally, more modern threads will start to appear like Necrons and Tyranids, which are no slouches either. I am also sure that a big part of the galaxy is still obscured. Then there are also the Tau. And Dark Eldar. And ultimately, do not forget about Chaos. As long as men harbour extreme thoughts and do not become serene, they will have power. I am pretty sure that Daemonic Incursions will also be there. So yeah, there is a lot of stuff to do, be it at times of peace or war ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 There are also plenty of other smaller crusades to keep pushing out. Assuming we accept the FFG stuff, theres the Calixis sector that needed a crusade, the Koronus Expanse and Jericho Reach probably get sorted in much shorter order with a Primarch or two rolling along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBelly1863 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Peacetime? In the Grim Darkness, there is Only War.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If we ignore the fact that the Emperor had bigger plans beyond the crusade, involving the webway and the imperium suffers no threats. Guilliman : would do more than command the Ultima Segmentum. He tries to train his marines as legislators and politicians so they can have a function beyond the great crusade. They be used as administrators all across the Imperium. But we known that it did not turn out as he had hoped, as you can see in many instances during Calth and Macrage events. Ferrus : would tuen his sons into artisans no doubt about it, in hand with the mechanicum. Curze: was already a liability, he would have ended up as a 3rd empty plint. Angron: with the nails slowly killing him, depriving him of his mind, he would have ended up as a 4th emtpy plint. Corax: would make a great exploration arm of the Imperium. Russ: would maintain his warrior culture and self appointed executionner title. Revolts need to be put down. Magnus: sits on the golden throne. His legion become scholars. Lorgar: the imperial cult may not have grown as much or at all without the heresy, so he would have been conflicted. He could have been denounced by his custodes watch, and either suffered to live a faithless life or a 6th empty plint. Mortarion: If he lives with the abomination of the spykers, he could be a supression force, much like russ. Perturabo: finally gets to be an engineer and embrace his true passion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus1138 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just as a side note, I don't believe the golden throne would be needed. Wasn't the constant psychic maintenance needed because Magnus' psychic sending mucked up all the equipment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I reckon Pert and Dorn would finally go at it like a pair of wild geese.... What?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 My theory: Once the crusade is finished the emperor will probably "replace" the primarchs & their legions with the custodes. After all the custodes mostly seem content with guarding things & are superior to Astartes. Also what with the whole galaxy being in his grasp and all, I think the emperor will have plenty of resources to make a custodian army big enough to wipe out the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Hmmm Guilliman becomes the manager of the intergalactic Starbucks chain. Logistics for the coffee god! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The Lion and the Wolf become big game hunters, one upping each other with bigger and bigger kills, finally the Tyrannids are driven to extinction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4227998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Lets be fair here, there was so many grudges between the Sons of the Emperor that Civil war between them would be inevitable even in peace time, i see maybe about 7 or 8 left by the 34th millennium Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Lets be fair here, there was so many grudges between the Sons of the Emperor that Civil war between them would be inevitable even in peace time, i see maybe about 7 or 8 left by the 34th millennium The Galaxy is big, they would have been far enough apart, or close in the retirement castle Atia mentioned. I don't see why the Lion would have been made warmaster. Horus, having not turned, would have kept that position. I don't think they would have really rules the Imperium, as the Emperor already started pushing for a human led Imperium, but they would have held important advisory and watching positions if they did. Horus would have been warmaster, serving to make the decisions on how and where the forces would be used against what threats. Dorn and Pert would have been in charge of fortifying the imperium. Roboute would have been the logistical leader of the imperial military, organizing and standardizing the "peace time" military. Ferrus would have been a liaison between the Admech and the Military. Lorgar (having not turned to chaos) could use his talent to spread the Emperors word without worshiping him, and help control the flow of the Imperial Cult. Magnus would have stayed with the Emperor to help maintain the not as necessary golden throne, and the Emperor, having more time, would help him learn and guide him where he needs to be. The emperor can train him to fight chaos far more efficiently. Vulkan would be made the legionary HR leader. Not sure what my beloved Sanguinius would do, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer of Olympia Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Perturabo gonna be the next Da Vinci, on 100000000000 dose of Steroid, while I see Khan,Russ going home and enjoying their lives, But I do think they will branch out to other stars and reaches, and when the Necron and Tyranid strikes, boy they gonna get some can of whoop ass Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I would say: Perturabo: Sent to man and fortify the boundaries of the Imperium of Man Guiliman: Would stay as ruler of Ultramar, governing the segmentum Angron: Most likely killed/dead Curze: As above, however it is harder to tell. Dorn: Would stay as Praetorian of the Emperor at Terra Ferrus: Craftsman, linked to the Iron Hands and a hell of a lot less metallic I would presume Mortarion: Becomes renegade with his legion? Its hard to tell with so little on him in the heresy. That or he pushes out of the Imperium of Man defeating hostile races. Fulgrim: Becomes a Herald with his Legion? A&O + Corax: Suppressors of any traitorous or Xenos factions within the Imperium. Sort of like the Inquisition, only good. The rest I simply can't see what they could be, these are what I believe the Primarchs would be doing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Lets be fair here, there was so many grudges between the Sons of the Emperor that Civil war between them would be inevitable even in peace time, i see maybe about 7 or 8 left by the 34th millennium The Galaxy is big, they would have been far enough apart, or close in the retirement castle Atia mentioned. I dont think it matters how big the galaxy is, god beings with nothing to do would get bored, considering how few times they would actually meet throughout the series and how easily they developed such bitter rivalries Id say Lion: truly have no idea Fulgrim: like most have said becomes some kind of herald and remains very close to both Horus and Ferrus Pert: could actually still see him hating Dorn, maybe them coming to blows and one killing the other causing a civil war or something? Khan: goes home, rides about on his bike in some fields, pretty chill eating lots of roast meat and stuff? Involves about of Pai Mei beard flicking. Russ: i could actually see russ turning aswel, getting bored and maybe lashing out at Magnus or even Lorgar could cause civil war Dorn: much the same as above, remains on terra building towers and pulling the finger at pert behind daddys back Curze: i think Curze is doomed regardless somehow or another he will fall could cause civil war maybe become the big bad Sang: goes home to Baal and continues his search for a red thirst cure Ferrus: gets his arms fixed, him and Fulgrim just spend there time having penis measurement competitions and heartily laughing at private jokes Ang: The butchers nails will kill him no matter what, could see him starting a civil war to go out with a bang Smurfypantsiman: Stays in Ultramar and rules all noble, very states manly and stuff Mort: Again could see him starting a civil war due to restlessness and his utter hatred of warp users Magnus: Stays with the emperor on terra to aid with the webway etc Horus: I actually think horus would retire and become quite scholarly, take a sort of backseat roll if you will? Lorgar: Goes about preaching the imperial truth Vulkan: Goes home and wrestles with reptiles Corax: Broods and explores, maybe writes some poetry *cough* A&O: defiantly take charge of some kind of spy network, to root out threats before they come to pass I think even without the heresy there is still a huge chance some other kind of conflict would break out, the primarchs would still take sides etc, all in it probley wouldn't be as all out devastating as the heresy was though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I can see them not getting along, but there will be enough to do to keep them from killing each other. Also, provided the Night Haunter actually did go in for the censure, I can see the Emperor still using him to crush major rebellions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Whatever the primarchs become, they will remain creatures of war.Si vis pacem, para bellum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The more I think about it, the more I doubt that the Emperor had peacetime plans for his Primarchs. He probably suspected that between an ever-expanding frontier, the aggression of Eldar and Dark Eldar and Orks and the possibility of other xenos races arising, and the near-certainty of the occasional uprising, I think the Emperor planned for the edges of his Empire to be in a constant state of near-war. Much like the Roman Empire, he was probably counting on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Theoretically, if the Imperium were to be successful then Curze would never see the vision of his death upon meeting the Emperor, right? Something like that would make him completely different. I could see him ans his legion becoming a literal army of Batmen scattered throughout thousands of world's across the imperium with Curze himself staying on Terra lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Corax, Curze and A/O all seem to fit into something like an "internal policing" role, but with different styles. It occurred to me that they could be be regarded as "scaled-up" analogues of the different Assassins. Corax/RG - Vindicare: stealth, precision strike. When the Imperium needs an uprising dealt with cleanly. Curze/NL - Eversor: sheer terror. When it needs it dealt with messily. Alpharius/Omegon/AL - Callidus: infiltration and deception. When it prefers that it's dealt with secretly. That leaves Culexus: maybe Mortarion/DG - psyker-haters, stoically advancing into whatever horrors have been unleashed? (Also leaves Vanum and Venenum, but that's just getting too complicated...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4228947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Well, once the galaxy was well under human control, I can imagine the Emperor finally having the time to address the psyker issue. With the help of the appropriate primarchs, schools would be set up to carry humanity through the next evolutionary step. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316176-peacetime-primarchs/#findComment-4229148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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