Corswain Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I kept my devestator/support squad sergeant with the same loadout as his squad but I am building Iron Warriors and I wanted shrapnel bolts. Otherwise, I'd usually go for a power fist. I'm afraid I don't have much advice for the command sqaud, I always just rule of cool them. I'm not a very competetive gamer....:) Standard looks great so far by the way. The green-stuff work is very good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4670861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 I've got access to the original book 1 so I'm guessing the tactical support squad got updated to be more like the heavy support squad. With the Serg having access to the same weapon as the rest of the squad? Really need to get the red book and inferno. Roll on payday!!! :D Cheers for the feedback regarding the gs. I'm pushing myself with gs at the moment. So more often than not I have to restart a few times. More practice the better I'll get. The real test will be making the 3 plastic Contemptors look more SW like. Bit nervous about making them all look different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4670903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Oh sorry, I read that as heavy support squad (which can have the same weapon) not tac support squad. Steered you in entirely the wrong direction there sorry! I'd go power sword and bolt pistol but it might be worth waiting for Inferno to see if you have access to a frost weapon of some kind. Looking forward to seeing your contemptors. A few small changes can make a big difference. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4670946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 I originally was going to do a small Iron Hands force to dip my foot into 30k. I bought some models and then the idea got lost in the bitz boxes of doom. :) So I've got a bunch of pads and some Immortals sat not doing much. I'm now tempted to do a small shattered Legions force to include the bits SW's don't get. Eg Rapiers, Artillery. As I've got the start of 3 Rapiers and I've got 2 basilisk ready to go as well (1 stripped down plus another on sprue) as I'd planned on doing them. The other option is to convert up iron priests from the immortals and the tracked units could carry conversion beamers. I know it's not the efficient bike/TDA method of having them but it'd look cool. The basilisk a can get stuck with my guard who probably need them more. Really need to not get caught up with all the shinnies. Lol ... Hobby butterfly will not screw up my SW's, I've waited too long for this (yeah I'm an old fart and I've wanted this for over 2 decades)!!! So a 10 man shield wall of slayers and a 20 man bolter pack need to happen. Supported by destroyer pack, Deathsworn pack and a command pack. Then I can have fun with other stuff!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4671275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Urgh ... Can't sleep, the old back is playing up. :( Really is the wrong time (3:30am) to come up with an idea to convert up a Contemptor with the ice claws from the plastic SW Dred kit. I'm also considering the possibility that the front plate from the same kit will go over the top of a metal Dred's sarcophagus. Also could the frost cannon be converted up to be a conversion beamer? Guess I'll find out in the morning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4677852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Sorry to hear about the back. Hope it eases up on you. Yes the plastic dread bits do fit on the metal dreads. Used the birs to uodate my old bjorn dread :) Loking forward to seing the claw. I used zombie scytges for mine. Just call the Helfrost a couts ss beamer just a more compct fenrisian design Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4677884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Yeah ... It's completely scuppered any chance of getting painting done. I can manage standing up with clippers or scalpel in hand with plastics and that's about it at the moment. :( Though I keep getting inspired to try different combinations of bits, it helps keep my mind off the pain. Lol ... It's also amusing to see what the kids bring back when I send them off to get a part for me. Trying to explain I need a SW plastic Dred foot and getting marine legs or metal legs is funny. I've got 4 metal Bjorn models I need to change up. A 3 strong claw will be changed up with old Epic Titan legs. Will need to bulk the legs out a bit, but will give them some extra height. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 If I may suggest an idea since we'll get a SW specific contemptor. What does look ace is a box dread mixed with a leviathan, putting the sarcophagus in the centre, and I don't think we'll see a named SW leviathan :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 If I may suggest an idea since we'll get a SW specific contemptor. What does look ace is a box dread mixed with a leviathan, putting the sarcophagus in the centre, and I don't think we'll see a named SW leviathan :) When I get hold of a Leviathan I'll give it a try. :tu: Tried the claws with blutac and they look like a decent fit, will post a pic later. Going to give the axe a go merging with a Contemptor arm as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 So blutac test fitting went well ... all will count as Dred combat weapons ... Double Ice Claws: Whopping Great Frost Axe (limited to the models right arm): Fell Hands Frost Claw (can be either hand): Normal Claw (can be either hand): Needs cleaning up before gluing together but good enough for proof of concept. What do you think of the direction I'm going with for the Contemptors? :) Will need to retain at least one of them for the box Dreds before getting carried away with converting stuff up. Really need to work on the arms for the metal TDA. Do I retain the old arms or replace them with plastic ones? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 I almost forgot I need to try converting the frost cannon as well!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackalwolf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 I like it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4678752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Looked through the bitz boxes and there are 7 box Dreds ready for induction, though some need to be stripped. I've also currently got 2 Contemptors not the 3 I'd thought. The other one is my brothers and likely to get painted up in another Legions colours. I'm considering using the clawed foot from the plastics set for the box Dreds. Though looking at bits sites there doesn't seem to be enough in the market to meet my requirements. Needing at least 13 more is pushing me towards looking at casting them in resin. I could get away with a single piece open cast mould which is exactly the same as casting bases which I've got lots of experience doing. ;) Really is just getting around to prepping and pouring the mould. I need to get one of the lads to get my terrain bitz boxes down so I can get hold of a cities of death big dangling light to finish off the frost cannon to conversion beamer conversion. I've got so many ideas now bouncing around and being limited by not being able to get stuff out of boxes rather than lack of ideas. Normally I have a sea of bits to hand and no ideas what to do with them, so it's a nice change. So just to give a little warning I may post a few rambling posts just to retain ideas. However once I get hold of the bits in question you'll see pics of the conversions. Bits in bold are just reminders for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4679262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 So the conversion of the Heavy Conversion Beamer I think came out well ... Think it looks good paired up with the big Axe ... Just looking back at how I've converted PA version of the gun it matches well ... Will be looking at a Forge Lord on bike and a Forge Lord in TDA both with conversion beamer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4680071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Just going back through the trial pics and really glad I didn't decide to go with the extra barrel extension ... That didn't even have the back end on and it was already longer than it ended up being!!! Found the clawed foot I need to cast up and will try pouring a mould with the dregs of leftover rubber from an old project. I might try scratch building some new bases for my SW's and make some moulds for them at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4680098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Slowly working on assembling Grey Slayers. I've culled the bulk of the metal mk7 with just the odd one with no helmet (mainly characters/wolf guard models) other than a few long fang models which have lots of other extra details and they will be sprinkled/hidden in squads. Mainly mk6 metals will be mixed in about 5 or so in every 20 man unit of Grey Slayers. Seeker squads may end up being all armed in mk6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4682899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I thought the conversion beamer looked familiar (tale of 18 gamers) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4683659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 Lol ... Yeah I double updated. Now I had decided not get any shineys until making inroads to the metal/plastic/resin mountain range. However I found the start collecting SW's box for a discounted price. So I have 1 thunder wolf to mess up trying to widen them. Then do a decent job on the other 2 to make Russ's 2 friends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4693201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 I've had a play around with the TWC and worked out why I hate the models so much. They're whip thin and look more like Rats than big Wolves as can be seen in the pic below: The far right one has been bluetac'd together while the other 2 have had a chunk of sprue slapped in the joint at the back of their heads. I think this helps really bulk up the look of them. Next up it's time to try and widen the body. I was a bit nervous of messing this up but I think it's done ok: While taking the pics I thought about adding spacers to the shoulders as well. I tried it with bluetac (which is quickly becoming my biggest handy hobby tool) and liked how it looked. The whole model I'm hoping is moving out of the mount look and firmly into the proper carnivore look. In the end I just went with my gut. ;) I've now started the slow process of gs'ing the model which I'm really happy with. First model I've actually stopped before getting my prints all over the gs. Not sure why but I started on the lower back: My last pic for the night is a bit scrappy in quality but I think helps show the size of the models: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4693749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Whoah! Amazing what a difference that made, they look great. Great greenstuff job too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4694092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnwolf Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Bulked up wolf looks amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4694099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Looks absolutely brilliant!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4694146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Cheers for the comments. Really enjoying bulking these out. Worked the fur on the belly and back right leg. Had to stop as I keep knocking the paw on the leg I've already done. This is the biggest gs'ing job I've ever tried. Normally I just slap a blob of gs in place and sculpt till I'm happy with it. This one in having to do a bit and then put to one side while things cure. Really hard to resist doing a little more. Can't really work on the heads yet as I need to finish the shoulders to know how much I need to increase the ruff around the head by. Guess it's time to do a stretch job on the second wolf. Lesson learned already for the 2nd one is do the gs'ing of belly fur first, then the legs and finally the neck/back. I've started in completely the wrong order but it's a learning curve. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4694154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 Second one has been bulked out with sprue spacers in the same places and then the joints have been filled with gs. Belly and one leg has been gs'd. First wolf has had a rest of the belly done and most of it's back. Lesson learned from today ... I really need to mix smaller batches of gs!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4694714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 Urgh ... Looking at what I did yesterday I know I could do much better if I just did smaller bits. I think I need to redo them rather than leaving it as is painting and then regretting it. I mixed up too much gs and just slapped it over one of the legs and back of the 2nd wolf. So it's lost a lot of the shape. I think I can save the belly which I'm really happy with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316322-sw1s-hh-wolves-wolf-kin-conversion/page/2/#findComment-4695026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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