Brother Achiles Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Can he be fielded in any legion ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 He can join any Legion, yes! Only stipulation is that they must be "Loyalists", so no Mortarion, Eidolon, Red Butchers, etc. in the army with him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm feeling a little bit 'meh' about the model, tbh. It's nice, don't get me wrong, but it seems very middle of the road to me. His aesthetic looks chunky, whether by design or accident, and I think he deserves crisper details. Look at Sigismund - he feels crisp, as a sculpt. Garro just... doesn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm feeling a little bit 'meh' about the model, tbh. It's nice, don't get me wrong, but it seems very middle of the road to me. His aesthetic looks chunky, whether by design or accident, and I think he deserves crisper details. Look at Sigismund - he feels crisp, as a sculpt. Garro just... doesn't. Would you like me (by that I mean Charlo) to photoshop a Serpenta in place of his bolter? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just noticed that book VI is named Retribution, and not Retaliation, at the top of the rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Would you like me (by that I mean Charlo) to photoshop a Serpenta in place of his bolter? I appreciate the thought but I doubt it'll help much. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Would you like me (by that I mean Charlo) to photoshop a Serpenta in place of his bolter? I appreciate the thought but I doubt it'll help much. I thought a volkite improved everything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I thought a volkite improved everything Although I'm obliged to tell you that this is always the case (as the resident Volkite enthusiast), it's pretty much like putting a cherry on a mud pie. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Pros -awesome armour detail. -some really cool rules. Finally some interesting mechanics on non-primarch models Cons -the most generic space marine pose of all times. -I thought helmet options were going to be a thing from Khârn/Sevatar onward? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Achiles Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Loved this guy in the novels, def a must to add to my fists ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I Want that head. My god, that is a nice head sculpt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Any ideas how this guy will work for those of us with loyal traitors (also know as the Alpha legion and not to be confused with the traitor loyalists the Dark angels) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I now have the base for a really cool inquisitor equipped with PA, thanks FW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I Want that head. My god, that is a nice head sculpt. Thank you for clarifying what you meant XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Any ideas how this guy will work for those of us with loyal traitors (also know as the Alpha legion and not to be confused with the traitor loyalists the Dark angels) I wonder if this will be clarified in Retaliation/Retribution, but from earlier books we already know there are loyal Iron Warriors Because if you go into battle without a helm and you aren't a Primarch you are a big idiot Astartes Unless you are in the Rout and love your leather facemask or the feel of air on your (optionally hipster beardy) face ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegriss Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I think he is balling Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I think he is balling More like.. BALDING Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellath Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 As I said in the News&Rumours thread, I feel a bit let down by the plain-looking bolter. Even more if you consider it's a "paragon bolter", even better than a master-crafted one. As for loyal "traitor" legion forces, well, roughly 30% of the Knight Errants who have appeared in the novels come from those legions, so I guess it can be possible to field Garro with them (probably as long as you don't have the Primarch or other named traitor character leading the army) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I love everything about him - the rules, the model, and his awesome sword and Bolter. I absolutely love that paragon Bolter because it looks so much like the old artwork :drool: I also think that we can see some of the upcoming DA rules with Garro. The rending sword and the oath of moment rules. I believe it was stipulated that the Dark Angels would get oaths to take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
norngahl Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Even through my heart beats for traitors, I will get the model just to paint it or for conversion.. awesome! Great rules, but keep in mind you are paying at least 50 dead points on top for a blank centurion. It's a small thing, but HQs have rarely won battles in games of 2500 points. @Carlo No helm might be idiotic, but this is where a bit of real life comes in. Ever served in the military or police? The more veteran you become, the more you customize your wargear. You wear what you feel good and save in, rather than just taking all gear possible. Especially closed helmetss are a pain in the *ss. Breathing through a gas mask sucks, you can't breath as easily in and out as without it, it's heavy and you start sweating, your neck gets tired and your sight is far worse than without a helmet. On top of this, once the plastics/glass is scretched a bit you see even worse or blurred, especially when looking into lights. In a job like beeing a space marine, where your death is for sure, I understand the whish for feeling at least comfortable :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Is it me, or does the possessed not have a face? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Is it me, or does the possessed not have a face? Garro's just that good at murderlatiin'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Is it me, or does the possessed not have a face? Not sure you would have one after a bolter round to the face! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 For everyone wondering how agent of the emperor works for their loyalist iron warriors, death guard, alpha legion etc... In 30k when you build your list the first thing you actually do is choose a Faction: loyalist or traitor. Once one of those is chosen you then select your whatever force you want, with some units being limited by Faction. So as long as you are a loyalist faction you can take Garro as a non-compulsory HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 The pictures are of the painted prototype, so details when you get Garro are going to be better than the one pictured according to Andy Hoare on the old book face Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316490-garro-up-on-forgeworld/page/2/#findComment-4236879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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