Lunar Centurion Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 What was the northern part of Terra like during Unification and the Heresy? I want to base my Imperialis Militia off of a Scandinavian force (Not vikings, just cold/icy Cadians), but because I love the fluff, I'm wondering what to call them, and what to do for terrain. I was kind of thinking clear-ish terrain with some ZM, but I'm not really sure. Thanks in advance! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Bear in mind that by the year 40,000 (and probably a lot sooner) there was no water left on the surface of earth, temperatures had risen, and cities covered most of the planet. There would still be people of scandinavian heritage in existence however the specific countries as you know them would be long gone, replaced with a region, for which you can make up your own 40k sounding name (Skadiks, Norskers, Daens etc.). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Okay thanks. Btw, didn't the south pole still have ice? That's where the Inquisition have their fortress, and it's under ice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Okay thanks. Btw, didn't the south pole still have ice? That's where the Inquisition have their fortress, and it's under ice. I havn't read that piece of fluff, but it is possible that ice may persist at the south pole, and at extreme heights, but with the seas gone, there definitely wasn't an ice sheet in the north. Real world rules apply, so more northern latitudes would still be colder than southern, etc. I dont think BL writers bother with wobble and orbital precession and stuff like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Scandinavia has been razed during the Unification Wars, if I remember. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 As I understand it, if a large part of the water had been physically destroyed or burnt off into space, and then the temperature had fallen after this event, then it would in theory be possible to have dry oceans and yet still have ice at the poles. Equally, it may be that not all the writers have read all the other writer's stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennisBall Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Water covers 75% of the world's surface currently. The loss of that much water would render the planet uninhabitable. How was food being produced to feed the billions living on Earth during the Unification wars? How was breathable air being produced? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schultzhoffen Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 ...because...toy miniatures game. Ignore reality. The warp does. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Water covers 75% of the world's surface currently. The loss of that much water would render the planet uninhabitable. How was food being produced to feed the billions living on Earth during the Unification wars? How was breathable air being produced? Because it is warhammer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remus Ventanus. Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Well by the time of the unification wars the earth would be cooler then it is now, so Ice at the poles is likely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Water covers 75% of the world's surface currently. The loss of that much water would render the planet uninhabitable. How was food being produced to feed the billions living on Earth during the Unification wars? How was breathable air being produced? Science is possibly the answer to this. The Mechanicum may have built an atmosphere-creator machine or something. Lunar Centurion, why not base it in the South Pole then, given there's definitely still ice there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4242923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I'm sure in Nemisis there is an assassin kept frozen on the South Pole and I got the impression it was still all frozen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4243172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 Water covers 75% of the world's surface currently. The loss of that much water would render the planet uninhabitable. How was food being produced to feed the billions living on Earth during the Unification wars? How was breathable air being produced? Science is possibly the answer to this. The Mechanicum may have built an atmosphere-creator machine or something. Lunar Centurion, why not base it in the South Pole then, given there's definitely still ice there? So maybe do a proto-Inquisition type thing? B/c iirc the Inquistion was based there, so they could be kinda like them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4243217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loddfafnir113 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I know the inquisition fortress is talked about in the 'inquisition war' book series, but most of the fluff in that has fallen by the wayside over the years (it's good for a look at the VERY early ideas of modern 40k but its mostly irrelevant now) and not sure if its mentioned anywhere else. At the beginning of Scars there's a lad from Terra and he is mentioned as being from the Scandinavian region, but I cant remember off hand what it says about the area (I only have it on audiobook so its not easy to reference it). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sororita Katya Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm sure in Nemisis there is an assassin kept frozen on the South Pole and I got the impression it was still all frozen. In the Nemesis audio book the only assassin kept under ice is the Eversor (The Guarantine) and he is not found on earth but in a base of operations on another planet that I cannot recall, and he is in stasis not just frozen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 It depends on what you read. There have been a few references to islands on Terra in various novels/stories and that implies bodies of water if not necessarily oceans. There has also been a few mentions of the Emperor trying to rehabilitate Terra's ecosystem so that's how I've always rationalised the inconsistencies. So, with that in mind, the Scandinavian theme is fine. Just make them late crusade after the Emperor starts cleaning the place up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm sure in Nemisis there is an assassin kept frozen on the South Pole and I got the impression it was still all frozen.In the Nemesis audio book the only assassin kept under ice is the Eversor (The Guarantine) and he is not found on earth but in a base of operations on another planet that I cannot recall, and he is in stasis not just frozen. Ahhh I thought it was Terra and the Antarctic. Probably got rushed that book a bit and used my mind to fill the gaps.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 If they can smooth such a large amount of Ullanor down to a nice shiny finish, fill in caves/valleys and wipe entire mountains of the face of the planet, (likely using DAoT tech) there probably is some kind of stable ecosystem on Terra. Perhaps the oceans are cover entirely different parts of the globe and Terra could look entirely different in 28,000 years. Not to mention there will be an ice age between now and then. I think you would be perfectly okay to use the Arctic circle in your fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sororita Katya Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I know the Venenum (whatever the actual correct spelling is) assassins are based in a tropical forest upon terra near the equator, for rain forests there has to be clean water so there must still be a fair amount upon Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4244524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karthak Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Water covers 75% of the world's surface currently. The loss of that much water would render the planet uninhabitable. How was food being produced to feed the billions living on Earth during the Unification wars? How was breathable air being produced? I suspect it boils down to the authors not having Neill Degrasse Tyson leaning over their shoulders and smacking them with a rolled up paper every time they wrote something that would make an environmental scientist do a spit take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4245252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Uninhabitable is a relative term. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316742-arctic-circle-during-unificationheresy-eras/#findComment-4245333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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