mondamoto Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I was wondering if these figures are meant to be used in a game or just display pieces. Reason I ask I just picked up a Roboute Guilliman Figure off of ebay for cheap as it was just the figure no fancy base or anything else. I was thinking I could use it with my army but its a half inch bigger than the terminators than came in the BoC box is this normal? For some reason I pictured the Primarch being terminator sized humans. If this is correct do his rules come in book 5. Sorry for the newbie qustions Mond Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 They can be either. The Character Series normally come with display bases with an inset regular gaming base that allows them to be removed from the display base and played in games. Not all the Character Series come with display bases though. You got a Primarch figure, and the Primarchs are supposed to be a few heads taller than their sons, sometimes even the Terminators in full armour, so that's correct. Normally he actually does come with a display base too, but he'll be fine without it. And yes, his rules are in Book V: Tempest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4248929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yes primarch's are much larger than marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4248930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Size-wise, Primarchs are to Astartes as Astartes are to normal humans. There is variation though with Alpharius/Omegon apparently able to pass themselves off as bigger-built Astartes. Dan Abnett plays rather nicely with the relative scales with the furniture in Roboute Guilliman's office, which has to accommodate all three builds, potentially creating optical illusions of distorted perspective (see Unremembered Empire). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4248954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Stat wise, Primarchs are to Astartes what Monstrous Creatures are to Snotlings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4248969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Stat wise, Primarchs are to Astartes what Monstrous Creatures are to Snotlings. Slight exaggeration Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4250224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Just checking you've seen a Primarch's stats. Compared to say a Talos, or a Carnifex? Angron with his 8 WS9 S8 AP2 Armourbane Attacks which cause ID on a 6 to wound? Vulkan with his S8 AP3 Blast Melee attack. Horus with his 8-10 S10 AP2 Concussive Attacks or S7 Shred AP2 Attacks. Fulgrim with his 8 S7 AP2 Attacks... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4250249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 So you saw the battle report thread where Horus died fighting legionnaires right? Legionnaires (eventually) can put primarchs down. Snotlings can't touch MC's Edit:sorry for the off topic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4250253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I was wondering if these figures are meant to be used in a game or just display pieces. Reason I ask I just picked up a Roboute Guilliman Figure off of ebay for cheap as it was just the figure no fancy base or anything else. I was thinking I could use it with my army but its a half inch bigger than the terminators than came in the BoC box is this normal? For some reason I pictured the Primarch being terminator sized humans. If this is correct do his rules come in book 5. Sorry for the newbie qustions Mond Unfortunately you've probably purchased an illegal re-cast. Is he on a regular sized base or the display one? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4250645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 So you saw the battle report thread where Horus died fighting legionnaires right? Legionnaires (eventually) can put primarchs down. Snotlings can't touch MC's Edit:sorry for the off topic No. Link please. See how much of a potato this guy was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4250863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondamoto Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Does anyone know what base you would put him on He cam glued to a plain terminator base and I am not sure if he should be on a terminator base or something bigger as I would like to transfer him to a scenic base of some sort. Thanks in advance. Mond Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Primarchs are on 40mm Bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 So you saw the battle report thread where Horus died fighting legionnaires right? Legionnaires (eventually) can put primarchs down. Snotlings can't touch MC's Edit:sorry for the off topic Exactly how did this happen? Let's assume he's in combat with a full 20 man unit. He would kill probably 6 before they got to attack. The remainder would land 7 attacks on him, wounding on a 6 which means probably 1 wound, and he has a 2+ save and IWND. I really don't think standard marines will be putting any Primarch down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Kurama vs his brother for some entertaining battle report fun. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316577-reports-from-the-age-of-darkness-bat-rep2-soh-v-sw/?p=4249883 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 A 5 wound Horus died to Recon Marines. Right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't believe it at all. I'm calling bull on the batrep. 1000 points of Recon Marines couldn't put Horus down. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 You know how dice don't always follow averages, right? That unexpected things CAN happen? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Due to the poor detail of the writing (nit that the report itself was bad, it just badly detailed) it's hard to make sense of what happened. So, all we have to knowledge is a recon squad, at WS4, of 5-10 men was able survive at least 6, possibly 10 S7 Shred AP2 attacks at I6, and retaliate and kill Horus, who is at 5 wounds. Fair, Horus may have fluffed his attacks and not killed anything. I've done it with Curze, and I've watched Angron have every single attack bounce off a Breacher Squad. But to take 5 wounds from at most 30 attacks (10 man squad, 2CCW's, Charging, no lost models), hitting on 4's, wounding on 6's, and failed saves on a 1, you have to understand that you will need have around 360 such attacks to do that in one phase. And that is assuming no IWND saves are made. There are unexpected things, such as the time when my Dreadclaw managed to nuke three quaeters of a battle line thanks to triggering a glance with its heat blast, after scattering wildly, rolling 6" for range and catching the rear of a Malcador Infernus, the Strength D hit triggering a chain explosion which all told killed nearly 800pts of stuff. Mathematically small chances are as good as impossibilities, which while a slight imprecision on my part (hey look, you've got yourself Internet points for proving someone wrong guys! Good show), is as good as. Plus, lets not talk about that time a regular Ork opponent of mine's Gretchin killed a Pain Engine. Or took 2 wounds off Belakor before needing to be rescued by Slaanesh Claw Terms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lasgun overwatch is the only thing that kills my Gorgons. Sad Raktra/Immortan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Due to the poor detail of the writing (nit that the report itself was bad, it just badly detailed) it's hard to make sense of what happened. So, all we have to knowledge is a recon squad, at WS4, of 5-10 men was able survive at least 6, possibly 10 S7 Shred AP2 attacks at I6, and retaliate and kill Horus, who is at 5 wounds. Fair, Horus may have fluffed his attacks and not killed anything. I've done it with Curze, and I've watched Angron have every single attack bounce off a Breacher Squad. But to take 5 wounds from at most 30 attacks (10 man squad, 2CCW's, Charging, no lost models), hitting on 4's, wounding on 6's, and failed saves on a 1, you have to understand that you will need have around 360 such attacks to do that in one phase. And that is assuming no IWND saves are made. There are unexpected things, such as the time when my Dreadclaw managed to nuke three quaeters of a battle line thanks to triggering a glance with its heat blast, after scattering wildly, rolling 6" for range and catching the rear of a Malcador Infernus, the Strength D hit triggering a chain explosion which all told killed nearly 800pts of stuff. Mathematically small chances are as good as impossibilities, which while a slight imprecision on my part (hey look, you've got yourself Internet points for proving someone wrong guys! Good show), is as good as. Plus, lets not talk about that time a regular Ork opponent of mine's Gretchin killed a Pain Engine. Or took 2 wounds off Belakor before needing to be rescued by Slaanesh Claw Terms. ...one of the recon marines was... (dunh! Dunh! DUNH!) Alpharius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317011-forgeworld-horus-heresy-character-series-figures/#findComment-4259471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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