Malakai Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Question was in the topic. Thanks in advance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
o8oo Anarch Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Is he unbalanced? My regular opponent has recently acquired Cypher, but I have yet to face him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 He doesn't have rules. Even the GW set says he's a classic model that doesn't have rules but is a collector's item or some such nonsense. I'm thinking of trying to work him into a Dark Apostle role as he tends to collect a following. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsnog Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 There's a data slate for him. You can download it for free and be a criminal or pay GW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o8oo Anarch Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Yup he defo got a data thingy. And a CSM detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 His data sheet is pretty good. Expensive but has a large block of fluff (almost a short book worth). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Thing is... Cypher can't lead or be in a battle forged Da army Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Avoghai Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 BUT he can can lead a little formation of veteran marines (1st company support) that would easily fit in a 1000pts army You can find his rules here http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/Cypher.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Thing is... Cypher can't lead or be in a battle forged Da armyBut you can take him in a non-battleforged list with dA to give your own guys all the buffs... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 BUT he can can lead a little formation of veteran marines (1st company support) that would easily fit in a 1000pts army You can find his rules here http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/Cypher.html you could always just take him in an unbound force Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsnog Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Thing is... Cypher can't lead or be in a battle forged Da armyBut you can take him in a non-battleforged list with dA to give your own guys all the buffs... Doesn't is specifically say he can't be taken with Dark Angels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Chaos Chosen with ATSKNF are good, even better when they infiltrate. Cypher's dataslate is solid, he would be SUPER good if they just straight up updated him to be a Moritat. Hmmmm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4249964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aura_enchanted Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Thing is... Cypher can't lead or be in a battle forged Da armyBut you can take him in a non-battleforged list with dA to give your own guys all the buffs...Doesn't is specifically say he can't be taken with Dark Angels? only in a battle forged, rules go out the window if it's an unbound list. And no formations aren't a workaround, your either unbound or your not taking cypher. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4250062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffsnog Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Sweet. I'm putting cypher in my list now seeing as I have to run unbound to do compitent Death Wing anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4250066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't think you can take him with Dark Angels even in an unbound force. It's pretty specific about being the one and only exception in the whole freakin game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4250264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yes you can. Dataslate says explicitly that he can't be taken with Dark Angels if they are Battle-Forged. Meaning unbound is fine. To prove that to myself I read through it again this morning. Page 147 (or at least it is on my iphone - your configuaration will vary) :). Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317013-anyone-know-of-good-balanced-7th-ed-cypher-house-rules/#findComment-4250272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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