Noctus Cornix Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 So, working around through lists and ideas for Horus Heresy stuff for my Word Bearers, I came across something a little disturbing and perhaps more than a little broken. I've been playing with the idea of a Moritat. He's a very cool concept, both crunch-wise and fluff-wise. I had always sort of planned out the idea of one with two plasma pistols (because I think its one of the coolest ideas) and could really put a hurt on even terminator squads. Then something dawned on me. The Word Bearers Rite of War, Dark Brethren. As one of its special rules, all Independent Characters are granted Preferred Enemy (Loyalist Space Marines). Now, given that this is the Horus Heresy, most opponents will be Loyalist Space Marines (some times you'll have fellow traitors but that's besides the point.) I was double checking the Preferred Enemy special rule and it states that you can reroll any failed to hit or wound of 1 in both shooting and assault. At Ballistic Skill 5, your Moritat needs a 2+ to hit and, if you take plasma pistols, you only need a 2+ to wound. With preferred enemy, you're rerolling every single roll of 1 for both to hit and to wound. Granted every eventual fail to hit will cause you a potential wound, but if you give him artificer armour he has a 2+ save. I was giving this a test, but, hypothetically speaking, the Moritat with Preferred enemy can chain fire an almost unlimited number of shots. I tested this about 10 times and, almost every single time, I ended up with 40+ shots, and only 2 or 3 failed to wound, each and every time. Now, am I reading this right? Is there some rule I'm missing? Cause, if not, a single model, tooled up and only costing roughly 180 points can potentially annihilate an entire 20 man tactical squad, or hell, even kill a Primarch and his command squad in one go. Top that off, if you want to get the Phase-Walker relic from Book 4 for him, you can jump him across the board right into one of your most precious units and he can just kill it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Did you use the FAQ that states Plasma Moritats GETS HOT! on a 1 and 2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Did you use the FAQ that states Plasma Moritats GETS HOT! on a 1 and 2? No, I did not see that. That does make things a bit more rounded out. I mean, he still hits on a 2+ but he can potentially take another wound from it. That and tied with the fact that he only has 2 wounds, you're looking at a real dangerous glass cannon. Slowly killing himself while he's tearing through the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you gets hot, the Chainfire instantly ends, though, although if you miss, Preferred Enemy lets you reroll it. And without the reroll from missing, it's not as good as it originally sounds, although it's pretty good - provided you can get him there. That said, check out the rules for Lone Killer in the Red Books; "May not benefit from any... beneficial special rules provided by other friendly models or army-wide effects which are the result of the Rite of War." So no dice either way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctus Cornix Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 · Hidden by Flint13, December 11, 2015 - No reason given Hidden by Flint13, December 11, 2015 - No reason given Huh... How about that. Can't believe I missed that bit of the rule... Weeeeeelp, this entire thread is pointless now. Might as well just lock it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249106
Xenith Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Why not a two serpenta moritat? With the rerolls on ones, you should get 72 ish hits, 54ish wounds, and then these deflagrate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Yeah, as Hesh said, Moritats get no bonuses from anything,.. Nice try though man! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles The power of Lorgar compels you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles ;) Gaaah! The paper cuts!!! Oh God the paper cuts! Make them stop! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles Gaaah! The paper cuts!!! Oh God the paper cuts! Make them stop! Serpentas counts as, because those cuts never stop hurting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles Gaaah! The paper cuts!!! Oh God the paper cuts! Make them stop! Serpentas counts as, because those cuts never stop hurting! They can even hurt Samus, aka: the guy next to him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles "Why did you set that orphanage on fire and crucify any child who managed to run away?" "I did it for the bibulz." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm still waiting for someone to make a WB based in Joshua "The Burned Man" Graham. He'd make an excellent Herald or WB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebulon Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm still waiting for someone to make a WB based in Joshua "The Burned Man" Graham. He'd make an excellent Herald or WB. Simple enough probably... Is there a tomb kings model or similar that looks like a Mummy? Combine that with some power armour and you're golden. Or just GS the bandages on. It's a cool idea which I probably won't steal (lazy) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles Alright there, Alexander Anderson? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles Alright there, Alexander Anderson? "Ya Protestant fugbucket." :P My second favorite Helsing rising character after Jan of course. But Alexander would have twin bayonets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 If you do model one, I strongly suggest having him dual wield 2 bibles Alright there, Alexander Anderson? "Ya Protestant fugbucket." My second favorite Helsing rising character after Jan of course. But Alexander would have twin bayonets. I was thinking his proper nutty page storms he does. Yes I know that's a barrier but shush. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317020-word-bearer-moritat/#findComment-4249902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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