Prot Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Okay so I found some old posts on this but they were all asking mostly about what size comes with what box, and what's legal. Just for the people who don't know: It is 100% legal to use 25mm bases with your infantry. And you can mix as much as you want. In fact it was quoted that the reason they made this move was purely for aesthetic reasons. The models are larger now (you ever put old Abaddon next to a new assault marine? It's almost comical. Khârn looks like a child with huge arms. lol) Anyway back to the point. There are pluses and minuses as I have units with both but I find I am at a cross roads. Aesthetically I hear both arguments. Some people like that the marine is... overtaking the base, larger than life, etc. Some people love the marine seems to just fit better. Personally I like the aesthetics because it gives me more opportunity to do something with the base. More room to personalize the model. But the bad news is I think it's quite a bit worse in almost every game play scenario except for evading template coverage. Things I have personally experienced: - Deep striking is quite a bit riskier. Even a min sized squad of Vanguard has greater potential for disaster. - Using "Rhino Wall" is pretty much impossible. Not only does the rhino only cover/hid about 3 marines, the new height causes their heads to poke over the hull. - Terrain issues are something I did not foresee but they are at times quite annoying. Placement in 'man made' structures is really awkward in a lot of terrain. Placing them on a 'floor' or within a cramped space just doesn't work where perhaps you used to be able to conceal a full squad. - Walking in aisles with the models sometimes they actually do not fit at all. - "Wobbly Model Syndrome": I find hill style or rocky terrain where you could get 10 marines in relatively fixed positions might now be only 5-6 models and the chance of them being placed at awkward angels is a lot higher. So the negatives above are for gameplay, but to add to that I would like to say some of my storage trays/foam are completely unusable now. Especially for models with irregular weapons or poses/banners/swords/large guns, etc. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So those are the pluses and minuses as I have experienced them. But I find myself at a crossroad. The way I handled this was all special weapons and characters are on 32MM. Making them easier for me and my opponent to identify (you know the question we often get every game: "Which guy had the melta gun again?" That being said, ALL my scouts (and similar sized model armies like Astra) are staying 25mm. Some specialty units I have now gone completely 32mm, like my newly completed Vanguard squads. So I'm almost finished all the tacticals I would ever need for my Ultramarines' Battle Company and I am seriously considering making the full switch over to 32mm. I can do it because I have the plastics to make the swap in probably a weekend's worth of work. Now I want to know if you switched your entire army, a portion of you army, or none of your army. And why did you make this decision and do you have any regrets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Uveron Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I have all my Power Armored Guys in the 32mm bases. And No Regrets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'm in the camp that it's too much work to change my normal dudes to 32, I am (slowly) changing my PA characters for the looks (you are right, 32 looks way better!) but that is all. 25 is better on the table 99% of the time, everytime. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yeah, no way am I rebasing my armies. That is a stupid amount of work to do for no real reason. Heck if I buy a kit that comes with 32mm bases I may put them on 25mm just to keep consistency with the rest. I could see doing future characters on the 32mm but not regular grunts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I'm going with the 32mm base for my Iron Warriors & pretty much all Power Armour armies. Already got 20 Iron Warriors rebase with a further 90 models that'll get rebase during the Christmas holidays. End of the day they look cool in my view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Yep, I'm just doing Marines with 32mm bases now, aswell as daemons (tbh they all need it, besides maybe daemonettes) - i even used some of the new bases for my Skullcrushers (new ovale ones) and Skulltaker (50mm) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't game, so all those negatives are mute for me. I do intend on rebasing select models to 32mm for the looks, I've BaC, and the mkIV's look so nice on the 32mms. Also, mildly related, is it coincidence that "True Scalers" we're using 30mm bases? Maybe, but I don't believe it. There was opportunity and demand, now GW has a supply. Cheers, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I've not consciously done this - and knowing that I have far too many things on 25mm bases, I think it would be odd to change! That said, I may switch smaller armies, or indeed - new armies, to that format. I just can't imagine rebasing my Death Guard legion, especially with the number of resin bases I have spread out among them too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 All Power Armoured models from here out are on 32mm for me. They look...imposing. Like Prot said, Imperial Guard stays on 25mm. In fact, any human or human-like model will be on those same bases. I'm glad I've waited so long to start my Death Guard as the new bases really add some umph. The old way of having a foot off the base is gone- good riddance! Now all there is to do is buy a few truckloads of 32mm to rebase my Iron Hands ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 My space wolves, dark angels and deathwatch are staying on 25mm as that's what they started on. Too much effort and too many bases needed to make the change! But, my ultramarines, blood angels and grey knights will be on 32mm bases as I prefer them. In terms of gaming issues, this isn't a huge consideration to me as I only get to play 6-10 Times a year! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I've thought about it then I realized I have over a hundred power armor guys to rebase and a bunch of them are metal on slotted bases... Besides most terrain built for 25mm really screws up game play... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBob Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I had been basing my models on what they came with in the package. FW seems to still be sending 25mm in the mail. Is that still the case? I use mainly FW for Heresy stuff. About a month ago, I received several marks of armor, all with 25mm bases. The only 32mm bases that I have received so far are BaC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJB2K3 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I wondered why my new box of Bazerkers had larger bases then the previous sets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I wasn't keen to change, but having bought a couple of kits with the newer bases, I must say I'm a fan. I will over some time probably re-base most of my power-armoured stuff because I do believe the models look better on a larger base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'm not rebasing my armies far too much time, money and effort involved and if you include all the trays that they won't fit in... 25mm for me and that's how it'll always be! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I have been basing my veterans and characters in 32mm to make them more imposing than the rest of the marines. I do not feel compelled to take that special treatment away from them. Edit: Rule of Cool does after all, trump practicality in 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4250942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disruptor_fe404 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm the opposite to quite a few people in here it seems; I'm sticking to 25mm just because I find that a bigger base makes the power armoured models look smaller by comparison (they look more hulking when they're spilling over the edges of the base!). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I refuse to rebase over 100 marines, but I will adjust going forward. My Crimson Tears 2nd Company will be finished up on 25 as will a couple of Deathwatch to round out a squad. The 4th Company and future Deathwatch marines all get 32mm because I like interesting bases and having that extra room opens up a whole range of possibilities without making it difficult to actually fit the damned marine on the base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW1 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm currently making masters for casting up fresh 32mm bases for my pa models and the freed up bases will be used with my guard. Most are already on resin bases with a pin and superglue holding them on so a quick twist to break the superglue bond and they're base free so it's not much work doing them. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Since the change to 32mm I've put all my new Marine sized models on them, but I haven't gone back to rebase my old ones. If I actually ever do that remains to be seen. I've actually also used 32's for Genestealers, Tau Stealth Suits (although I believe they subsequently repacked those with 32's anyway) and will be doing for Daemons as well. They do look a LOT better on the bigger bases in my opinion, as do the 40mm>50mm changes (Crisis Suits, Tyranid Warriors). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 No, I still have terminators on 25mm bases. Good luck making me rebase my whole army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobrakei Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I rebased all mine. I tried chopping around the feet but that took time and I was very wary of damaging the model itself. So I just started clipping the edges off the bases, leaving the model stuck to a flat surface, gluing that to the 32 mm base and then using texture paint to blend the edges in. It works pretty well for a quick process, and the Marines look way more imposing on bigger bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I still feel the bases for terminators are a little too big... And imperial guard heavy Weapon teams bases are way to big... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4252995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I still feel the bases for terminators are a little too big... And imperial guard heavy Weapon teams bases are way to big... This. 32mm for terminators and 25mm for marines would have been best. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4253001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I wasnt going to, but then i did one or two, and i liked it. I like the extra detail i can put on the base, and still fit a marine. That and having them hulk over a guardsman a little more without true scaling was worth it. A pain in the arse to do, though. If more of my models were finished, i probably wouldn't have.I've also stuck my Ork Nobz on 32's. They look much better. 25's were too small for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/#findComment-4253007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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