TennisBall Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I think it was a move designed to make it harder to sell second hand models. Given that the main reason the legs stick out from the base is the near universal squat stance they come with, it would have been better to make the marines stand more upright. That would have given them a little bit of extra height, a much better pose, and not taken up so much room on the table or wherever they're stored. If you want to make the marines obviously larger than guard then the other thing for GW to do is make the guard smaller, go back to the size they were such as the old metal Cadians. Better to change the size of the guard than the much more numerous marines. The other problem is that the larger base will result in larger marines due to scale creep, again making the older models less usable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4253179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Or more useable....smaller target for line of sight in gaming terms...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4253290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So can guard use them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4253296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 25mm even for the Calth boxed set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4253345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I think it was a move designed to make it harder to sell second hand models. Given that the main reason the legs stick out from the base is the near universal squat stance they come with, it would have been better to make the marines stand more upright. That would have given them a little bit of extra height, a much better pose, and not taken up so much room on the table or wherever they're stored. If you want to make the marines obviously larger than guard then the other thing for GW to do is make the guard smaller, go back to the size they were such as the old metal Cadians. Better to change the size of the guard than the much more numerous marines. The other problem is that the larger base will result in larger marines due to scale creep, again making the older models less usable. Why would it make re-selling harder? Base size isn't exactly an obstacle; they are easily replaced, as proven by people who are re-basing their existing armies. I don't see it as anything other than an aesthetic choice, and one which I wholeheartedly agree with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4254039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I've not consciously done this - and knowing that I have far too many things on 25mm bases, I think it would be odd to change! That said, I may switch smaller armies, or indeed - new armies, to that format. I just can't imagine rebasing my Death Guard legion, especially with the number of resin bases I have spread out among them too. Yes, that is what I'm doing, my Csms and kdk are going to be on 25mm, with my bac I'm going to make into a vanilla marine army, I'm going to keep it small, the power armor guys being sternguard, allied with my grey knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4254250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenocide Enthusiast Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I wasn't even aware that this was a development. When did all this start?I must say I'll be sticking with the 25mm for my BaC set anyway considering I just ordered a whole load of scenic bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4257415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Started with the BA Tactical squad release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4257528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedes Nex Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I've kept my army pure 25mm and plan on putting any new 32mm kits on 25mm too. The only exception is the HQ but it's the Centurion/Praetor who doesn't even fit on a 25mm and I have no idea how people put their FW Praetor on a 25mm before the 32mm bases came out. To me, there's too many reasons to not switch to 32mm. - I prefer the look of 25mm. - My army isn't powerful, so I need the smaller footprint to hide behind buildings against armies like Tau. - My expensive foam cases fit 25mm, not 32mm. - My army is already all on 25mm. - Most of my models have upright legs, meaning the 32mm base looks very empty and too large, like Terminators on a 40mm. The only reason I can see to switch to 32mm is more assault benefits and more room for basing decoration, both very good reasons, but not enough for me to go through the effort of re-basing and putting up with the uglier base size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4259148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Only ones I have on 32mm bases are the ones from the new Devastator box, and that only because their wide stance needs it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4259379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 So I've just started doing marines in the post 32mm world. Which means thus far I've put all my PA on 32's. I finally have 2 squads scouts and I'm trying to decide from an aesthetic and practical/gaming POV if I go with 25 or 32. At the moment I'm leaning towards 25 because they are smaller than regular SM and so I can squeeze them into places easier with out wobbly model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4265419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeliske Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I seem to have come late to this party what the hecks going on? Do I have to rebase all my Astra Militarum? I will happily use whatever base comes with the models personally and if that means old sets come with 25 and new ones with 32 I'll switch over to the 32s just to stay standard but where is this coming from and is it something I have to look at doing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I seem to have come late to this party what the hecks going on? Do I have to rebase all my Astra Militarum? I will happily use whatever base comes with the models personally and if that means old sets come with 25 and new ones with 32 I'll switch over to the 32s just to stay standard but where is this coming from and is it something I have to look at doing? The newer Space Marine PA kits come with 32 mm. This was done purely for aesthetic reasons (apparently). So far there are no other armies being released on 32 mm and no, you are under no obligation to rebase your collection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeliske Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I seem to have come late to this party what the hecks going on? Do I have to rebase all my Astra Militarum? I will happily use whatever base comes with the models personally and if that means old sets come with 25 and new ones with 32 I'll switch over to the 32s just to stay standard but where is this coming from and is it something I have to look at doing? The newer Space Marine PA kits come with 32 mm. This was done purely for aesthetic reasons (apparently). So far there are no other armies being released on 32 mm and no, you are under no obligation to rebase your collection. Thank heavens. I hadn't heard about this though. Guess I shouldn't be surprised my group is very small and close knit :) Appreciate the heads up though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I'm one of the people that are in limbo on this issue. I have based my new devastators and most of my characters on 32mm because they look much steadier that way, but all the basic troopers I have left to build will still go on 25mm bases (which they were provided with anyway). My general observation is that people that are leaning toward the artistic side of the hobby tend to go with the larger bases, as they provide more opportunities for expression, while the "gamers" tend to ignore the issue. I haven't so far run into someone who decided to rebase their whole army for reasons other than aesthetics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
netminder69 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I have rebased some. Most of them I haven't based/painted yet, so i just added to the base using adapter rings. These specifically. http://eccentricminiatures.com/adapterrings.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobrakei Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I think a good rule of thumb is to put anything T4 and above on 32mm and below that on 25mm if you're intending to swap over. It's a bit of a strange rule of thumb but it does seem to work well! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 My Sisters come on 25mm bases and don't look out of place on them, so I don't need to change them. However, I might stick my Seraphim on 32mm, as I've heard that they tend to be rather unstable. If I can get away with leaving them on 25 mm, then they'll stay that way too. However, when I get around to (re)starting Marines, I might go straight to 32mm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I went all in, I bought a 100-pack of 32mm bases and isn't looking back! The larger bases make them feel properly large when compared to a mortal! http://imageshack.com/a/img908/492/r1xH3l.jpg [Edit]: Just using them for my astartes, forgot to say. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4266972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Devil Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I seem to have come late to this party what the hecks going on? Do I have to rebase all my Astra Militarum? I will happily use whatever base comes with the models personally and if that means old sets come with 25 and new ones with 32 I'll switch over to the 32s just to stay standard but where is this coming from and is it something I have to look at doing? The newer Space Marine PA kits come with 32 mm. This was done purely for aesthetic reasons (apparently). So far there are no other armies being released on 32 mm and no, you are under no obligation to rebase your collection. Yet........ I've decided to use the 32mm only for 2 wound characters (3 wounds gets a 40mm) and the standard bearer since he won't stand up otherwise. The rest remain on 25mm. I'm not going to buy new battle foam trays to accommodate new bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4267235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 So far there are no other armies being released on 32 mm A few other armies are in the process of changing already; Necron Warriors and Immortals have already been repacked with 32mm and I'd expect the rest of the Necron infantry kits to follow suit eventually. The CSM squad kit has been repacked and it's inevitable that the rest of that range will change as well. The Bloodletters and Plaguebearers in the two new "Start Collecting" boxes come with 32mm which suggests that the other lesser daemons will follow, and Tau Stealth Suits were reboxed with 32mm as well, which to me indicates that other larger infantry models in ranges of smaller infantry (ie Genestealers) might well get the same treatment. Orks seem like they are big enough to warrant it as well so I wouldn't be surprised to see them change in the future (indeed, it looks like their AoS equivalents are on 32mm in the Start Collecting! Greenskinz box) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317071-did-you-go-from-25mm-to-32mm-bases/page/2/#findComment-4267917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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