Lord Blackwood Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 So its been enough time by now I reckon to ask this. Mildly curious as to how the new Betrayal at Calth box set has affected everyone's local store / gaming group as it pertains to 30k. Weve all seen the sudden spike of activities here at Age of Darkness and the effects on forgeworld have been obvious as well ( kits selling out / being recasted to be more compatible to the red books selling out ) The overall effect on my store has been twofold , there is a ton of fresh meat / inexperienced / new players diving into 30k head first getting thier hands on the rules and enjoying things like zone mortalis / low point games. ( And getting destroyed by those of us with our legion specific stuff in good fun of course ) Strangely enough 40k itself has seen more of a resurgence maybe not because of but alongside the 30k boom thats happened. How has the release impacted yer store / Group ? Are you pleased with the effect it has had? Have you had the privilege to introduce someone to 30k by violently crushing the force they designed from the box set? Have you explained to them that the train has no breaks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Have not noticed but I rarely stop by. Life is hectic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Everyone is now talking 30k the only problem is for me personally the attitude of these gamers is still off putting. The constant berating of FW and how GW should handle everything as its now able to be done in plastic ya da ya da ya da. Honestly it's draining my soul as it feels fw are starting to cater to these people and not stick to what they've been doing which is what they want. I feel like book 6 will either make or break the hobby. I've seen in other forums how the newer hobbyists are starting to cause arguments in their 30k sections and im hoping the b&c won't get affected by this trend. It's good to see more armies springing up but it feels like deja vs with the same questions and whatnot being pushed by the community and I hope that we will see the return of our older hobbyists and that their threads don't get lost to the sands of time. Rant over Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Edit: Good point, Bladewolf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 At some places I play the response to BaC has been great. I've never seen 30k players at the store I usually play at, now there's is a whole group of 5-6 people starting up 30k armies. Just a shame that the store is back home, not at university. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 Lets try and keep it constructive and on pointnot about how we view 40k players and their mindset I in no way want this to turn into a lets bash 40k folks thread Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 For me there's actually a 30k gaming scene now! Before the release of BAC there were only 2 30k players in our entire store. There are now 9 people, including me which is awesome. People are excited as ever, many calling the game as being very close to 5th edition in balance, which was arguably the most balanced edition in 40k. For me I'm extremely excited, however the greatest thing is that everyone is new and based off BAC. At my store 20 man squads are pretty big, one guy even told me that his idea of a strong list involves 6 20 man tactical squads. The spartan reigns supreme here as well. The biggest advantage for me is that no one knows about the power of graviton, I was even laughed at for saying the graviton cannon was good. That "unkillable" will be a smoldering wreck next time I get my hands on it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 My local gaming club has seen a surge of 30k activity. We've opened a new Facebook group to chart our progress as armies are formed and plans are made. It's not just new BoC gamers, people who already have 30k forces have upped their game as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 An influx of new players at my local hobby store, some playing BaC for what it is but most getting into 30K proper with the red books. I think I know how the Terrans in the Traitor Legions felt now... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 30k players seem to be popping out of the wood work here. We're hoping to have a small loyalist vs traitor event/meet and greet to see what players are wanting to see in the long term. There is even interest in running the campaigns from the books. The most important thing the box did was give people a reason to look at the armies, units and for most 40k marine players they realized they already had 90% of an HH army and decided to give it a try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 As far as I've noticed, it's still just me and a Mechanicum player as always. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4251983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I've noticed that people are very excited about 30k Legions, and there is a lot of buzz around both my store and club. HOWEVER, the scene has also been filled with WAAC players, people not dedicated to the 30k lore, and those who are trying to bypass all the things that made 30k great in the first place. I've seen combo armies of 30k and 40k units, un-painted, proxies, trash lists and other things. It just feels like the lowest, basest elements of our community are flooding in. The people wanting to mix 30 and 40k especially, and those looking to bypass or break the system annoy me most. A lot of us play HH precisely to get away from the 40k arms race. We are here because the look of our armies, the lore, and the theme are AS important as their performance on the table-top. That being said, to everyone else who appreciates and understands exactly what FW has created, I welcome you! More interest is ultimately beneficial to the hobby. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phalanx Warder Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 There has not been to much of an impact in my local area, we have a strong 30k community with Alpha Legion, Death Guard, World Eaters, Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Emperors Children, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Ultra Marines, Dark Angels, Raven Guard and Salamanders all represented upto about 2.5-3.5k each if anything it has allowed people to build a second legion or fill out their existing one, soon we will be having 5k games. So far people have resisted the use of Primarks but that will soon change! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Bjoern Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Last Saturday we made the first small HH matches at our store. Actual we have my Mechanicum and Ultramarines, two more UM and an Iron Warrior. And i hope there will be some more. We tried the Flight of Truth Szenario from Book 1. It was funny. I enjoy HH matches more then 40k at the moment. In 6th Ed most Codex are on a equal power level but now i have the impression that every new Codex became more powerful then the one befor and that sucks. HH is different to that. Basicly all SM got the same toys to play with. Then you get your Legion specific stuff and finaly you can bring in some variation by using the different rites of war. But still all are more or less on the same power Level. You know what i mean... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Everyone is now talking 30k the only problem is for me personally the attitude of these gamers is still off putting. The constant berating of FW and how GW should handle everything as its now able to be done in plastic ya da ya da ya da. Honestly it's draining my soul as it feels fw are starting to cater to these people and not stick to what they've been doing which is what they want. I feel like book 6 will either make or break the hobby. I've seen in other forums how the newer hobbyists are starting to cause arguments in their 30k sections and im hoping the b&c won't get affected by this trend. It's good to see more armies springing up but it feels like deja vs with the same questions and whatnot being pushed by the community and I hope that we will see the return of our older hobbyists and that their threads don't get lost to the sands of time. Rant over let's hope that it won't be so Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I went there for a game and other players cheked out the red book, most were interested in the heresy unique things such as ceramie land raiders, but as far I'm the only 30k player there hence I make my armies according the 40k standards (cheaper too-less points-) we'll see if anyone joins the club Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Not at all, apart from far more people building 30k armies. Still the very friendly nice guys, salty powergamers and more NSFW jokes than 4chan and reddit combined :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4252759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well I'm aloud to use my army on the public tables now rather than one of the private tables at my gw store. Seem to be more people who are interested in the game now. We've also said thatin sub 2000 games no spartan chassis's are aloud this was to stop me and Dave beating ppl with typhons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4253737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I need to get out to my FLGS more, but last I was there, there was only one copy of Betrayal At Calth left, so I guess it sold well there, and if I recall correctly, I think I saw a 30k game going on, but it may have been C:SM and CSM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4253875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Well, we sold our initial twelve, and we've got one sitting on the shelf that's being eyed up. The atmosphere didn't really change, but some 30K is happening. At least two of the boxes we sold are Christmas presents though, so they won't be opened for another week and a half. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4253892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not at all, apart from far more people building 30k armies. Still the very friendly nice guys, salty powergamers and more NSFW jokes than 4chan and reddit combined Hue hue. I suppose we should feel guilty, but I am looking forward to dropping 2 Spartans, Primarch and a Deredeo on the kiddies at the local shop who can only just about afford a single BaC Box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4253893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 My local shop was pretty depressing when the sales guys were trying to get people to buy the BaC set... Pointing out how much money was spent on the resin equivalent and tbh quite a bit of FW trashing especially over the Leviathan Dread for some reason. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4253901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not at all, apart from far more people building 30k armies. Still the very friendly nice guys, salty powergamers and more NSFW jokes than 4chan and reddit combined Hue hue. I suppose we should feel guilty, but I am looking forward to dropping 2 Spartans, Primarch and a Deredeo on the kiddies at the local shop who can only just about afford a single BaC Box. Yes, especially as you'll be taking way more points than them Whatever it takes to win, I guess :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317110-how-has-the-atmosphere-of-your-store-changed-since-bac/#findComment-4254251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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