Dragonlover Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So I've finally got around to building my box, and I have no idea what the best way of building the Terminators is, or even if there is a best way. I figured I'd ask before I just Rule of Cool it and give everyone lightning claws. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman1275 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 TH SS is pretty good, though I like how lightning claws look more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 I can't do TH SS, that's not an option in the box sadly. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I can't do TH SS, that's not an option in the box sadly. Dragonlover Not to mention that only IF and Sallies have 'em. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Whachu Want them to do? If its to bully and mince 3+ Saves, Claws are hard to go wrong (especially since they look cool) or Swords / Mauls if you want to save the points. But for Ap2, its Axes and Power Fists taking at least a Single Chain Fist. If they're going up against a Non-Unwieldy Primarch or MC/GMC/Walker, then a Thunderhammer would be a good bet for Concussive. If you want cool Power Fists, just take the LC's Snip the Tippy-Tips off and shave them down (Look to FW's Abaddons Power Fist). For Special Weapons: Plasma Blasters are Awesome being 2 Shot 18" Plasma Guns. Reaper Autocannons are ok if they're walking up the board and have to get shots down range/pop a rhino. What with being S7, 2 Shots, Twin-Linked. Heavy Flamers are good to pile on wounds. However, Cataphractii is Slow and Purposeful so no Overwatch. For Guns: Combi-Weapons give you flexibility especially if they find themselves in a position unable to charge (Ie you play a Legion that has the option to deepstrike) and need to nuke something. Volkite Chargers are great for piling on wounds and thinning out 5+ Armor Hordes. For a General Purpose, Cheap-ish Loadout: 3 Axes, 2 Swords, Combi-Weapons per 5. To deal with other Termies: 9x Power Fists, 1x Chainfist, Combi-Plasma/Melta, 2x Plasma Blasters. To deal with Massed Power Armor: LC's. If not twinned, Volkite Chargers or Combi-Flamers/Plasma, Heavy Flamers if you want. Power Swords and Mauls to keep it cheap. At least an Axe/Fist on the Sarge to deal with 2+ Save Sargeants. Thats how I'd go about it, at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 What I'm thinking of is combi bolters, plasma blaster converted from tactical plasma guns, 2 fists, 2 claws, chainfst. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 If you want cool Power Fists, just take the LC's Snip the Tippy-Tips off and shave them down (Look to FW's Abaddons Power Fist). [Nitpick]The Talon of Horus is not a power fist. It is a relic lightning claw that happens to do S*2 AP3 shred. Abaddon wears the Talon of Horus - an archaic lightning claw with a built-in combi-bolter, which he look from his fallen Primarch after the Siege of the Emperor's Palace. [/Niptick] I always found the look of cataphractii lightning claws ambiguous. I'm still pondering whether the TDA character should be a Praetor or if I should put some bits and bobs on the chain fist to make it look like a Narthecium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 What I'm thinking of is combi bolters, plasma blaster converted from tactical plasma guns, 2 fists, 2 claws, chainfst. Go for it if you have the points. If you ever need to free up some, downgrading to Axes and Swords respectively from the above would be the first place. If you want cool Power Fists, just take the LC's Snip the Tippy-Tips off and shave them down (Look to FW's Abaddons Power Fist). [Nitpick]The Talon of Horus is not a power fist. It is a relic lightning claw that happens to do S*2 AP3 shred. Abaddon wears the Talon of Horus - an archaic lightning claw with a built-in combi-bolter, which he look from his fallen Primarch after the Siege of the Emperor's Palace. [/Niptick] I always found the look of cataphractii lightning claws ambiguous. FW's Abaddon doesn't have the Talon. Since...y'know, Horus has it. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99560102149_AbaddonLoken03.jpg I also used it as an Aesthetic Example on how to turn Lightning Claws into Power Fists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Horus Heresy Abaddon isn't wearing the Talon of Horus though. I actually thought HH Abaddons power fist was a lightning claw... Hmmm might have to add bits to the finger tips now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 I was just about to correct my mistake. I missed the FW. But as I said, from the design you cannot definitively say whether it is a lightning claw or a power fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 What I'm thinking of is combi bolters, plasma blaster converted from tactical plasma guns, 2 fists, 2 claws, chainfst. Go for it if you have the points. If you ever need to free up some, downgrading to Axes and Swords respectively from the above would be the first place. Limitations of the BaC box, I'm afraid! I guess I get one sword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 So, is a plasma blaster literally two plasma guns welded together, looks wise? Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So, is a plasma blaster literally two plasma guns welded together, looks wise? Dragonlover It sure is :D http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2055/catsqd9.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So, is a plasma blaster literally two plasma guns welded together, looks wise? Dragonlover It's the same with all (normal) terminator weapons: Combi Bolter, Plasma Blaster, Reaper Autocannon, Heavy Flamer... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of the 30th Host Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 So, is a plasma blaster literally two plasma guns welded together, looks wise? Dragonlover That's how I made mine for the Betrayal at Calth Terminators. 2 Plasma Guns from the MKIV set filed down slightly and stuck together. Looks the part, and easier/cheaper than sourcing the FW part. Here you go: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131944296@N02/22600430958/in/datetaken/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/131944296@N02/22397567533/in/datetaken/ Ed: Picture Link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Sweet. I've got some of the plasma gun upgrade kit knocking around somewhere, it'll be pretty easy to knock that together. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4255983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 So, is a plasma blaster literally two plasma guns welded together, looks wise? Dragonlover That's how I made mine for the Betrayal at Calth Terminators. 2 Plasma Guns from the MKIV set filed down slightly and stuck together. Looks the part, and easier/cheaper than sourcing the FW part. Here you go: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131944296@N02/22600430958/in/datetaken/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/131944296@N02/22397567533/in/datetaken/ Ed: Picture Link Nice, I've been wondering what to do with the neat retro plasmaguns from the box, and I like this contraption better than the official version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4256268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Yay, finally found a reason to use my plasma blast guns. This topic has bee most constructive, thank you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4256295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 After seeing the blast gun I think I'm in love with it. It looks like a double barreled plasma gun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4257271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gorgon Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I went all wolverine with mine as I was originally doing Raven guard and was gonna upgrade to Raven talons. Now I am doing night lords I may give them combi bolters and s single claw thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4257513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Fist on the Sarge to deal with any 2+ armor Challengers. Maybe upgrade the Combi-Bolters to Combi-Weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4257515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 To deal with Massed Power Armor: LC's. If not twinned, Volkite Chargers or Combi-Flamers/Plasma, Heavy Flamers if you want. Power Swords and Mauls to keep it cheap. At least an Axe/Fist on the Sarge to deal with 2+ Save Sargeants. Thats how I'd go about it, at least. Does anyone really ever take the volkite chargers over combi-weapons, except Laernean Terminators, who have to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4257538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 To deal with Massed Power Armor: LC's. If not twinned, Volkite Chargers or Combi-Flamers/Plasma, Heavy Flamers if you want. Power Swords and Mauls to keep it cheap. At least an Axe/Fist on the Sarge to deal with 2+ Save Sargeants. Thats how I'd go about it, at least. Does anyone really ever take the volkite chargers over combi-weapons, except Laernean Terminators, who have to? If your going for MAXIMUM EFFICIENCY, no. If you're going for the rule of cool which is a VERY big draw to 30k, why not? If you're facing Orks or Horde Army players on a decently frequent basis, hell yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4257539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomMarine Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I always build my terminators for rule of cool hence my bac cats ended up with 3 claws 2 chain fists a heavy flamer and 4 combi flamers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4258505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I always build my terminators for rule of cool hence my bac cats ended up with 3 claws 2 chain fists a heavy flamer and 4 combi flamersMaim! Kill! Burn! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317303-bac-terminator-load-out/#findComment-4258510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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