Fallen11 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I am planing to get one one of the two. Well, I would use both but my heavy support is running thin...sicaran, fire raptor etc. And I will probably run my rapier laser batteries as thud guns to counter blobbing and they aint half bad for some at. I thought that I could run squadrons of rapier vindicators but saw that they are only 1 per hs. Even though venetator is almost 50% more expensive than vindicator, he can counter super heavy if I ever face one. Btw. What does ordnance 2 do? 2 shots and I roll 2 dice for pen and pick highest? I can still drive 12'' and fire main gun? Which one you like more? Venetator does look more pretty! And is probably a bit stronger for at? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Venator all day long. Ordnance 2 is 2 shots. For each shot you get 2 dice to pen Forcing snap shots is the real icing on the cake. If you choose to take sponsons take the Heavy bolters as they are cheaper and can only snap fire. Helps with a weapon destroyed result. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Ventator for sure, it's far more maneuverable, basically the same damage output as the laser vindicator and forcing snap shots is a great ability. Sponsons are not really worth, if you're worried about weapon destroyed results just take a combi bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Vindicator Destroyer. It looks better than the Nipple Gun, and cheaper. That said, the Venator is the better of the two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I have a soft spot for the old ww2 tank destroyers. To me model wise, the venator looks way cooler. Game wise, venator all day long. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I'd say I'm disappointed with my venator about 80% of the time... it's good when it works but I find that a rarity. Either missing all together, failing to pen or penning and not doing enough on the damage table. Flare shields you still need a 6, super heavies a 5/6. Still like I said when it works, you kind of forget about all the bad much like an abused housewife does when she takes her man back.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 It's 2d6 to pen though due to ordnance role Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Yeah but still doesn't help as much as you would hope! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share Posted December 25, 2015 Well, no one has spartan in my club except me, so no flare shields. With each shot there is at least 33% chance to pen, so not bad at all. And I do like the model a bit more than vindi. If only vindi was able to be in squadrons like 40k variant,then it would be much more worthwhile. Tnx for advice, you made my choice easier! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4260928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The Venator's a great answer to enemy superheavies and nasty stuff like bombard Leviathans, I'd go for that. Plus, Sicarans are the best tanks ever. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4261062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Mehman Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 I'm in the minority again . Then again, I don't have to worry about actually fielding my army ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4261116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massaen Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Its not 2d6 - its 2d6 and pick the highest for armour pen... a HUGE difference Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4261122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironwithout Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Its not 2d6 - its 2d6 and pick the highest for armour pen... a HUGE difference Oh crap my group have been playing that wrong! Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317511-sicaran-venetator-or-rapier-vindicator/#findComment-4261337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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