veterannoob Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 New Garro novella out: $50 for limited ed hardback (just like others) and now ebook version $30. I picked up the ebook and, while the page layout looks pretty close to how a trade paperback is formatted (I hope) it actually has almost 200 pages before an extract from Wolf King (another AMAZING HH novella) and standard license brickabrack. Lowered print amount to 2,500 printed. Seems to show experience with the sweet spot to ensure they all sell. Was 4,000 then for Raven Guard stuff moved down to 3,000 and not sell out *as fast* so this seems like a good move. Between BaC, Pharos, Garro, and anthology next month my eyes, they are strained:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carach Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 another limited edition. colour me surprised. followed garro throughout and now missing a major part of his story because yet another limited edition prices me out. its a piss take how common these limited edition half-novels are. You have to go to EA to find a place that more blatantly milks its customerbase Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Yup !!! that is why I gave up on the Heresy. Now Garro too and he was my favorite. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 They made it a limited edition novella and no audio book like the other Garro stories? Black Library Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 They made it a limited edition novella and no audio book like the other Garro stories? :cuss Black Library If it follows the same path as previous HH novellas and hasn't sped up, we shall get a cheaper version and the audio book in 18 months. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Somehow that just doesn't make it feel better. Thanks though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Well have fun fellow Black Templar fans. Sigismund is on it, and well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well have fun fellow Black Templar fans. Sigismund is on it, and well... Sigismund is in it?! :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 another limited edition. colour me surprised. followed garro throughout and now missing a major part of his story because yet another limited edition prices me out. its a piss take how common these limited edition half-novels are. You have to go to EA to find a place that more blatantly milks its customerbase While I agree that it's pricey, let's not get out of control with the comparisons here. Remember that EA made Dungeon Keeper Mobile, that's not 'merely' milking your customers, that urinating in their cornflakes and expecting them to pay you for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviox Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 another limited edition. colour me surprised. followed garro throughout and now missing a major part of his story because yet another limited edition prices me out. its a piss take how common these limited edition half-novels are. You have to go to EA to find a place that more blatantly milks its customerbase While I agree that it's pricey, let's not get out of control with the comparisons here. Remember that EA made Dungeon Keeper Mobile, that's not 'merely' milking your customers, that urinating in their cornflakes and expecting them to pay you for it. Have you actually tried the game? This is getting way off-topic, but I feel people are hating the DK game for wrong reasons. Give it a try, I think it's the best mobile freemium game out there, having decent guild systems, frequent tournaments, content updates, single player campaign etc. I admit it's a bit slow to begin, but raiding later in the game is quite fun and you don't need to pay to win. I play in a guild usually placing in top-10 in tournaments and only once paid during early game to get an extra imp faster. On the topic, it is good improvement that the ebook version is cheaper than the hard-cover. The ebook version seems to be missing the 'extra bits' pages of the hard-cover though. I just wish they would make it so that if you buy the hard-cover, you would automatically be entitled for the ebook version too. So much to read, so little time.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well have fun fellow Black Templar fans. Sigismund is on it, and well... Sigismund is in it?! :O Yes, but I didn't finish reading, he appears early on the book. I dont know if he will appear again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well have fun fellow Black Templar fans. Sigismund is on it, and well... Sigismund is in it?! Yes, but I didn't finish reading, he appears early on the book. I dont know if he will appear again. He only appears the once. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongGone Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 $30 for the eBook version of a novella you say? I'm confused by your tactics, BL. There isn't a full length novel on my Kindle that costs more than $15. Hell most of them are less than $10. More Hell, I bought a bundle of 6 HH novels from you for $50... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Yeah I was all geared up to buy the ebook (I got a kindle for xmas) only to praise when I saw the price :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4264917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus1138 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 $30 for an ebook novel is stupid. $30 for an ebook novella is insulting. Between prices like that and the conspicuous lack of a review system, I went from a Black Library regular to essentially ignoring them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Pricing tactics aside, I wonder if BL is gearing up to a Garro-centric Heresy book combining all of the audios (rewritten for prose) and the novella (plus possibly another novella or something of a kind) into a singular tome akin to Legacies of Betrayal, Mark of Calth, etc. I would not be surprised to see that re-released as a standalone Heresy title, and given a place as a book in the series. For those of us who do not typically go for audios (and who may choose to avoid the novella because it follows up from those audios), this would be a must-buy as a series Heresy novel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaeron Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Pricing tactics aside, I wonder if BL is gearing up to a Garro-centric Heresy book combining all of the audios (rewritten for prose) and the novella (plus possibly another novella or something of a kind) into a singular tome akin to Legacies of Betrayal, Mark of Calth, etc. I would not be surprised to see that re-released as a standalone Heresy title, and given a place as a book in the series. For those of us who do not typically go for audios (and who may choose to avoid the novella because it follows up from those audios), this would be a must-buy as a series Heresy novel. I would love that - perhaps at some point down the line... I have ordered the new novella - looking forward to it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carach Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 They made it a limited edition novella and no audio book like the other Garro stories? Black Library If it follows the same path as previous HH novellas and hasn't sped up, we shall get a cheaper version and the audio book in 18 months. yea.. only 20quid for a digital copy. not like that's extortionate too or anything.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 $30 for an ebook novel is stupid. $30 for an ebook novella is insulting. Between prices like that and the conspicuous lack of a review system, I went from a Black Library regular to essentially ignoring them. There's a review system coming soon: Join the Librarium and become an elite Black Library reviewer. Get a new novel every month – starting with The Horus Heresy: Pharos by Guy Haley – and submit reviews for use on the website. Also includes an exclusive short story only available to Librarium members. Personally, I'm not sure that this scheme will amass the most objective reviewers. Willingness to pre-purchase novels without knowing what they're about strikes me as an indicator of bias. Of course, I could be wrong. The Horus Heresy and the Beast Arises alone would be reason enough for a lot of fair-minded individuals to subscribe, hoping of getting novels from those series at a discount. Something tells, however me that the novels that will be part of this scheme will not necessarily be the most anticipated releases of the year. That's just a matter of math; as much as we might complain about Black Library's pricing scheme, I doubt anyone is expecting to see many more Heresy novels beyond Pharos to be given to subscribers for an average of £6.25. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor of Calth Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Would anyone be kind enough to post spoilers? Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Spoilers Inc Garro is unhappy that Malcador is sorta just using him , he feels unfufilled in his role and is full of doubt. Malcador sensing this tells him to go on a sabattical but he wont be going as his knight errant just as himself Garro is fine with this until malcador is like no armor no wargear , he agrees to give up his armor but not his sword Garro makes his way to a sanctuary for the church where he thinks Keeler is , shes not there but apparently some of Horus' boys killed everyone at the place before he got there, Garro is pissedImperial fists show up and fight with Garro , Sigismund shows up and is like " Sup homie " Sigismund and Garro have a private conversation where Garro pretty much figures out that Sigismund ( Like Garro himself ) Is starting to believe in the Lectico Divinitatus and the Divnity of the Empror , Sigismund has been tracking Keeler as well but now that he brought a strike force of fits out to the sanctuary Dorn is gonna be pissed , he cant keep his eyes on the Imperial Saint so Garro has to make sure shes safe Garro agrees and goes hunting for Keeler , eventually runs into her and Sniderman in some walker city thingy The guy Horus has sent to assassinate Keeler is actually the vindacare from nemisis ( good read ) who apparently Horus had broken and turned to his will. His little homie is an alpha legion human spy the two of them go about figuring out where keeler is in the walker city they are also aware Garro is there Keeler shows garro that there are many lines of fate all of which end with her death , Garro aint about that life so he tells her to go into hiding cause the agents of Horus are lookin fer her , she refuses ( cause you know ... thats smart ) READY , FITE , Garro pretty much one shots the sky by throwing Libertas across the room and decapitating him then he takes on the Vindacare and his demon handgun with libertas ( remember garro has no armor so hes just baller as hell ) Suddenly Another knight errant shows up , says Malcador wants Keeler , Keeler tells Garro this is fine and that shes likely safer whever malcador puts her than running around on the surface anyway. Garro with reknewed faith basically says , yah whatever fine Malcador and Garro have a moment where Malcador is all " theres part of your soul thats closed to me "Garro replies that , that is his faith and that malcador can eat a bag of dongs Novella End 6.5 out of 10 Needed more Sigismund Though Interesting enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Sounds like it'll be an interesting audiobook if they ever release one. Not sure why there should be more Sigismund since this is Garros story. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Sounds like it'll be an interesting audiobook if they ever release one. Not sure why there should be more Sigismund since this is Garros story. Thats just me being bias XD I want more Sigismund cause hes my favorite character outside Bjorn of the Space Wolves in the HH plus a Sigismund / Garro buddy cop movie would be sick and you know it friend I well definitely say Sigismund is written very well here and seems consistent with his other depictions Garro as always comes across as very deep and his inner conflicts while I dont feel they are properly resolved really make it apparent that hes something special among even the Knights Errant a Group of very special dudes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriegsmacht Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Yeah I figured that you are a Sigismund fan and I understand that it's all good. Was kind of odd that the two would meet up since Garro never really interacted with any other high profile marines besides the other Knight Errants. You're right if Sigismund and Garro did team up to find Keeler I would think it would be cool it's just from what I read in your spoiler there little meeting made me go "Eh ok that happened". Also your mention of Garro coming across as deep and having inner conflicts makes me believe this screams an audiobook. I know I keep harping on that but I am biased towards that medium for the Garro stories. I have all the others and just think it's wrong that this one was released in a different format. lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Spoilers Inc Garro is unhappy that Malcador is sorta just using him , he feels unfufilled in his role and is full of doubt. Malcador sensing this tells him to go on a sabattical but he wont be going as his knight errant just as himself Garro is fine with this until malcador is like no armor no wargear , he agrees to give up his armor but not his sword Garro makes his way to a sanctuary for the church where he thinks Keeler is , shes not there but apparently some of Horus' boys killed everyone at the place before he got there, Garro is pissed Imperial fists show up and fight with Garro , Sigismund shows up and is like " Sup homie " Sigismund and Garro have a private conversation where Garro pretty much figures out that Sigismund ( Like Garro himself ) Is starting to believe in the Lectico Divinitatus and the Divnity of the Empror , Sigismund has been tracking Keeler as well but now that he brought a strike force of fits out to the sanctuary Dorn is gonna be pissed , he cant keep his eyes on the Imperial Saint so Garro has to make sure shes safe Garro agrees and goes hunting for Keeler , eventually runs into her and Sniderman in some walker city thingy The guy Horus has sent to assassinate Keeler is actually the vindacare from nemisis ( good read ) who apparently Horus had broken and turned to his will. His little homie is an alpha legion human spy the two of them go about figuring out where keeler is in the walker city they are also aware Garro is there Keeler shows garro that there are many lines of fate all of which end with her death , Garro aint about that life so he tells her to go into hiding cause the agents of Horus are lookin fer her , she refuses ( cause you know ... thats smart ) READY , FITE , Garro pretty much one shots the sky by throwing Libertas across the room and decapitating him then he takes on the Vindacare and his demon handgun with libertas ( remember garro has no armor so hes just baller as hell ) Suddenly Another knight errant shows up , says Malcador wants Keeler , Keeler tells Garro this is fine and that shes likely safer whever malcador puts her than running around on the surface anyway. Garro with reknewed faith basically says , yah whatever fine Malcador and Garro have a moment where Malcador is all " theres part of your soul thats closed to me " Garro replies that , that is his faith and that malcador can eat a bag of dongs Novella End 6.5 out of 10 Needed more Sigismund Though Interesting enough. I laughed. Great review. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317666-garro-novella-out/#findComment-4265553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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