Grimtooth Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 In my last SW army, I equipped every GH that had a 2-handed bolter grip with a dwarven axe stowed up underneath their power pack, covered WYSIWYG and kept the axe flavor in the VIth. However, those were the old dwarf kits that I sourced them from that were bare axes with no attached hand. What is the new source of axes from the dwarven kits or elsewhere? Even just the axeheads would suffice as I do not see the whole axes sans grip on any of the new dwarf kits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Well, you an still get packs of chain axes from FW. Technically part of their CSM line, but they're pretty generic and worked fine on the test models I fitted a while back for my postponed VI Legion. I think Kromlech ay do something similar as well. Otherwise, you could just remove the hands from the dwarf axes. Far from ideal, I know, but the Company seems to have taken real umbrage to spare weapons recently, much to my chagrin. That said, which 'old' dwarf kit are you referring to? The current Warriors box dates to 6th edition fantasy at the earliest, so it's pretty old these days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyrstuart Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Anything that has an intact grip without a hand is gold these days. But if your looking just for a source, I know that there is a seller on ebay that will occasionally put up close to 30-40 axes from the dwarves sets. Sometime theyre the new kit that comes with the heads separate (Dantay and Vykryl can help you identify those, they use them alot), but mine came from the older Thunderer/Quarrelers set. Also depends on the aesthetics you want.That new kit has the celtic knotwork details, where as mine has alot of the stylized Dwarf head and beard on them. Edit: The seller is Hoard O' Bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share Posted January 1, 2016 It was the old Thunderers kit that had the intact grip minus hand. Those were small axes that fit up tight and only had a few runes on them. The new celtic knot axeheads will make an appearance as soon as I find a good source for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykryl Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Black Dagger Games is my main bits source, sellers name is window-box. Has the large axe heads with knotwork listed right now. Don't see the small handless axes at moment. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201494597241&alt=web Also find them at Bits-World and Horde-'O-Bits at times. Bits-world has this. http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131556444480&alt=web Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 +1 for Blackdagger games. I use them for just about everything GW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
codyrstuart Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Same. If Im buying one-off, I always go Black Dagger, but if I'm buying bulk, I usually go Hoard O' Bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Same. If Im buying one-off, I always go Black Dagger, but if I'm buying bulk, I usually go Hoard O' Bits. Im a little leery of Hoard O'Bits as they dont always accurately describe their bits. I bought a bunch of vikings heads off of them for my Wolves, only to find they are drastically smaller than 40 head bits, and mostly dont fit power armor. I was able to use one in a cataphractii terminator, but that leaves about 23 useless heads. Too small for Guard as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4265944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Well, you an still get packs of chain axes from FW. Technically part of their CSM line, but they're pretty generic and worked fine on the test models I fitted a while back for my postponed VI Legion. I think Kromlech ay do something similar as well.The problem with chain axes is that as of the last C:CSM those aren't regular CCWs anymore. They might confuse some players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Well, you an still get packs of chain axes from FW. Technically part of their CSM line, but they're pretty generic and worked fine on the test models I fitted a while back for my postponed VI Legion. I think Kromlech ay do something similar as well.The problem with chain axes is that as of the last C:CSM those aren't regular CCWs anymore. They might confuse some players. Eh. I'd be surprised if that ever came up tbh, especially since Space Wolves cannot take 'chainaxes', only ccws. It'd be akin to using GK Nemesis Weaponry on Wolves/non-GKs. Or quibbling about what's a 'proper' power weapon, or the difference in modelling power vs frost weapons. Certainly not enough for me to shy away from it as an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 Solid help all. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo ninja Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I recently picked up a pack of 8 of the old dwarf axes from a bits trader on eBay. It's worth a check every so often if you really want some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 There are two axes on the marauder horsemen sprue that don't have hands attached. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 I just ordered Hammers and Lances from Kromlech. I can tell you how their quality is (the pauldrons I ordered a few weeks ago were absolutely fine), when I have them - if you think about buying the Axes or Chainaxes from Kromlech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 2, 2016 Author Share Posted January 2, 2016 The real ornate axes available with Celtic designs and such will be reserved for special models. It is my opinion that every member of the Rout would go into battle with an axe, even of non-power type. I am reminded of Bjorn cutting an Eye of Inversion into one of the walls of the Quietude space station and it being referred to as a simple hand axe. So all my Wolve have been equipped with one of the simple dwarven axes stowed up under their power packs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4266730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Alternative axes would be chaos axes, if you want really meaty axes which are not ornate in the slightest, then beastman works well. The bigger dwarf axes are from the dwarf hammerers/ longbeard kits. Look great as axes for terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4267900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The Kromlech stuff is all solid. I actually prefer it to the FW bitz as I find FW stuff to be a bit weedy, and I have to end up scratchbuilding weapon hafts because the thin resin is a pain to pin or work with. (IMO anyhow). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4269360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 @Brother Ramses, I think in the end, what/how you envision your wolves should also fit how their axes should look. For me, I like my wolves gritty and grim. Prospero Burns type, so I go with sometime that looks simple but brutal at the same time. The more ornate, the less it takes away from that image. Keep the ornate minimal towards jarls or the star speakers/rune masters. If you make everyone have something similar, they tend to look like carbon copies. Perfect example would be the Space Wolf Blog's 30K Wolves using chaos warrior cloaks. They look sweet, but when you make all your wolves look like that, they end up looking bland and boring. Which is a shame given the time and effort because they are beautiful, but ends up looking boring and static... wolves are suppose to be individualistic and unique, each hero/warrior their own character. Just my insight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4269430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 @Brother Ramses, I think in the end, what/how you envision your wolves should also fit how their axes should look. For me, I like my wolves gritty and grim. Prospero Burns type, so I go with sometime that looks simple but brutal at the same time. The more ornate, the less it takes away from that image. Keep the ornate minimal towards jarls or the star speakers/rune masters. If you make everyone have something similar, they tend to look like carbon copies. Perfect example would be the Space Wolf Blog's 30K Wolves using chaos warrior cloaks. They look sweet, but when you make all your wolves look like that, they end up looking bland and boring. Which is a shame given the time and effort because they are beautiful, but ends up looking boring and static... wolves are suppose to be individualistic and unique, each hero/warrior their own character. Just my insight. I agree on the cloaks. Well done, but overdone. My fixation on the basic axes is that it would be a standard Fenrisian axe. The dwaeven marauders had individual runes and stuff on them that set them apart in my opinion to show at least an individuals axe ornamentation. I mean it is the birthgift that each Fenrisian born must grasp or be tossed out into the wild to die. So imo, even Jormungr Two-Bladed would have a favored basic axe stowed up under his power pack. Maybe never using it due to his preference of weapons, but almost out of honor of the axe going into battle. And who knows, maybe its smile would crease the forehead of an enemy every now and then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4269496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I remember your work and your wolves. I'm sure you will do just as great if not better this time around! keep us posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4269662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The Anvil axes have a really good basic axe feel IMO, they are however attached to hands. :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4269802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted January 7, 2016 Author Share Posted January 7, 2016 Here is an old WIP Long Fang Pack Leader with stowed axe. http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s89/Grimtooth_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/20160106_230017_zpsdll56sdu.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4270497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Looks good Brother Ramses. I agree that using the same axes over and over can take away from the effect of making individualistic models, my preference is to give the less ornate axes to the least experienced models such as Blood Claws and Swift Claws. Dwarf Warrior axes and marauder axes are good for this. Grey hunters and some Wolf Guard, then more ornate axes such as the longbeard single hand axes work well. The only issue I find is that there are a limited amount of designs, so if used in large numbers, you can go 1 of 2 ways. Mix the axes through out, making sure no 2 similar posed models have the same axe design, to make them look different, you can also use different metal techniques, such as slightly bluer metals on blades or change out golds for silver or different colour gems if they are quite a dominant feature.. Alternately give the whole squad the same axe design and mix up the gems/metals a little. Then give the Pack Leader an alternate design. Fluff wise, as a brotherhood ritual, the pack went to the forges together and during a single night and day the forges resounded to the whooshing sounds of the bellows stoking the flames, the hiss of cooling steel in water and the constant ringing of steel being pounded into a murderous design. As the sun set, the pack came together. As a show of unity they had adopted the same pattern to show they fought as one, but each axe was given a little of its bearers personality... I like using the Hammerer, longbeard 2 handed axe heads for Wolf Guard and terminators, as these are larger and most ornate... The weapons have grown and been embellished as their sagas have grown. Also the axes scale well without being too cartoonish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4271392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostblade Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 They're a little fancier looking, and I'm only going off what I can see from GW's picture of the sprues, but it looks like the new Dwarves stuff has a few loose axes in the kit. May be worth a look see once they're released and the bits are available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4274366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Yep. Those sprues look interesting! Even some of the keys or so could be used for decoration on vehicles. Or one of the helms as part of a banner pole. Of course it depends on your great companies fluff, but it could easily be a heirloom of a fenrisian family or a honorable Kaerl who fell during the Battle of the Fang. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317742-axes-sources/#findComment-4274489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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