Mazryonh Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 We all know that characters like Abaddon, Typhon, and Khârn appear in 40k and already have rules there, but what about other 30k characters appearing in post-30k eras (other than the Primarchs)? A few possibilities follow below: Sigismund did not live to see the 40k timeline, but seeing a model and rules for him as first High Marshal of the Black Templars during the First Black Crusade would be nice, as would seeing the same for Alexis Polux as the Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists in a post-30k era. Kor Phaeron and Erebus are still active in the 40k timeline, but don't have models or rules for them in 40k. Kor Phaeron could use a buff at least (maybe to his Psyker abilities?) since he's rather weak in 30k. Various characters in Dreadnoughts could survive to see 40k (Bjorn of the Space Wolves is already one such character), as well as the Iron Dragon Dreadnought from the Salamanders (though its 30k occupant didn't survive like Bjorn did). How about "Honoured Telemechrus" from the Ultramarines? Seeing him in a Leviathan Dreadnought in 40k would be pretty cool. Certain members of the Knights-Errant could survive to 40k. I know I'd like to see Kyr Vhalen of the Iron Warriors as a Knight-Errant. Also, if "anyone can be Alpharius," then what about the other Alpha Legion characters? Maybe they could pass on their titles to others worthy of them, so we could see an "Armillus Dynat" or an "Exodus" in 40k, though they would not be the exact same individuals as their 30k versions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I imagine it's quite plausible we'll see different rule sets as the Heresy progresses to its climax and eventually the scouring, so some characters may be seen in the forms you're describing.For 40k though, I'd rather keep it as it is. There are already plenty of links, and the more you add the less special these links to the time of legend and mystery that is 30k become, in my view. The two are separate settings. If you have 20 characters from 30k around in 40k, titles or not, it cheapens it. Thankfully, this won't happen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Polux gets shot in the head some 800 years after the formation of the crimson fists, so not really much point in him getting any rules i suppose, but i do get what you mean it would be nice to have something, even if it was just some fluff or some closure for our favorite heresy era characters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo13 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Polux gets shot in the head some 800 years after the formation of the crimson fists, so not really much point in him getting any rules i suppose, but i do get what you mean it would be nice to have something, even if it was just some fluff or some closure for our favorite heresy era characters Oh does he really?!?!?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Various characters in Dreadnoughts could survive to see 40k (Bjorn of the Space Wolves is already one such character), as well as the Iron Dragon Dreadnought from the Salamanders (though its 30k occupant didn't survive like Bjorn did). How about "Honoured Telemechrus" from the Ultramarines? Seeing him in a Leviathan Dreadnought in 40k would be pretty cool. No need for new rules there. Cassian Dracos (30K) becomes Bray'arth Ashmantle (40K) (with slight mods because Vulkan isn't around to maintain the Iron Dragon). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin the wraithlord Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Polux gets shot in the head some 800 years after the formation of the crimson fists, so not really much point in him getting any rules i suppose, but i do get what you mean it would be nice to have something, even if it was just some fluff or some closure for our favorite heresy era characters Oh does he really?!?!?!? I thought that was more than common knowledge man :P im so so sorry i was the one to tell you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo13 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Polux gets shot in the head some 800 years after the formation of the crimson fists, so not really much point in him getting any rules i suppose, but i do get what you mean it would be nice to have something, even if it was just some fluff or some closure for our favorite heresy era characters Oh does he really?!?!?!? I thought that was more than common knowledge man im so so sorry i was the one to tell you Read said common knowledge. (shuts said laptop and walks away) lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazryonh Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 No need for new rules there. Cassian Dracos (30K) becomes Bray'arth Ashmantle (40K) (with slight mods because Vulkan isn't around to maintain the Iron Dragon). Should have formatted the initial post better, but yes, I already knew that the Iron Dragon dreadnought is still around in 40k. Perhaps Cassian Dracos (and other such characters) could be inserted into other dreadnought types later in the the timeline? Polux gets shot in the head some 800 years after the formation of the crimson fists, so not really much point in him getting any rules i suppose, but i do get what you mean it would be nice to have something, even if it was just some fluff or some closure for our favorite heresy era characters I didn't say that Polux should get 40k rules, just that if there are FW rulebooks covering an era shortly after the HH, he should get rules (and perhaps even a unique model) portraying him as the head of the Crimson Fists. I imagine it's quite plausible we'll see different rule sets as the Heresy progresses to its climax and eventually the scouring, so some characters may be seen in the forms you're describing.For 40k though, I'd rather keep it as it is. There are already plenty of links, and the more you add the less special these links to the time of legend and mystery that is 30k become, in my view. Why would including 40k versions of characters appearing in 30k cheapen the 30k versions? Kor Phaeron, Erebus, and Abaddon have all been in 40k's lore, though the first two have only had their models appear in 30k first. I believe that the opposite would happen. Abaddon in 40k is much more of a threat than his 30k incarnation. If suitably-buffed rules for characters like Kor Phaeron and Erebus appear for their 40k incarnations, they would be similarly imposing and show how far they've come along. Of course, this wouldn't apply to characters like the Alpha Legion special characters who might "inherit" their titles but don't pass along their experience. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317857-rules-for-30k-characters-in-later-eras/#findComment-4268903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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