Veteran Sergeant Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think we should call it a puma! It's naht a puma. Jokes aside, it's not really very "Space Mariney" either. It looks like the kind of bigass tank the Imperial Army might have used, but not the Legions themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm going to guess in excess of 10. A Fellblade/Glaive have 12? This thing is probably going to be that high plus the void/flare shields. I'd guess more in line with a Warhound than anything currently with tracks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Thunderhawk only has 9 - but that was because of GW not FW changing the rules and FW having to keep it in line. I'd guess at it having 10 plus 2 void shields and armour 14 all around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col.hertford Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 We know it has at least one void shield :D Two, actually, if you look at the generator nodes on the top The number of projectors on a FW model doesn' relate to the rules. I have a Lucius pattern Warhound with four projectors, and a Mars Warlord with eight. Admittedly my reaver has four which is the right number. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I think we should call it a puma!I think el chupa thingy sounds better myself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I think we should call it a puma! It's naht a puma. Jokes aside, it's not really very "Space Mariney" either. It looks like the kind of bigass tank the Imperial Army might have used, but not the Legions themselves. I thought the same thing. It looks too blocky and slow for the Space Marines to use, but since they were the size of Legions I'd guess that such a thing might make sense, but this guy has to have an absurd transport capacity to make it worth more than a Spartan, which is 25 with 5HP and 2 Quad Lascannons for about 300ish points. If it is 35-40 model transport then it may be worth it. Though, I'd like it just because I think it looks cool, but definitely not "Space Mariney". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If it's a Super-Heavy with void shields, and is usable in 40k, it will completely transform the way Marine armies can be played and bolster the assault immeasurably. Grav cripples Land Raiders and Spartans alike in 40k, and regular tanks are too slow and easily immobilised or destroyed. This would also be great in 30k but it won't be as much of a game changer or revelation. The Spartan is already a reliable method of driving towards your opponent in HH games. Imagine what a boon it could be for 40k Chaos as well. I hope FW are making this for both time periods! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_contagion Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If it's a Super-Heavy with void shields, and is usable in 40k, it will completely transform the way Marine armies can be played and bolster the assault immeasurably. Grav cripples Land Raiders and Spartans alike in 40k, and regular tanks are too slow and easily immobilised or destroyed. This would also be great in 30k but it won't be as much of a game changer or revelation. The Spartan is already a reliable method of driving towards your opponent in HH games. Imagine what a boon it could be for 40k Chaos as well. I hope FW are making this for both time periods! Ok, yeah, haven't thought about it like that! You could put a Techmarine/Warpsmith in it and then fill it with possibly up to 2 Terminator Assault Squads or 2 Berzerker squads (since super heavy transports can hold multiple units) and be pretty safe from anything. It even looks like it has an AA turret on top, possibly even interceptor? I'd think if you got some friendly players you may be able to use this in 40k, and I'd imagine that this would eventually go to 40k anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If it's a Super-Heavy with void shields, and is usable in 40k, it will completely transform the way Marine armies can be played and bolster the assault immeasurably. Grav cripples Land Raiders and Spartans alike in 40k, and regular tanks are too slow and easily immobilised or destroyed. This would also be great in 30k but it won't be as much of a game changer or revelation. The Spartan is already a reliable method of driving towards your opponent in HH games. Imagine what a boon it could be for 40k Chaos as well. I hope FW are making this for both time periods! They may simply port it to 40K but remove some functionality like Void Shields. They did this with a few other vehicles. The Armoured Ceramite upgrade is sometimes allowed in 40K and sometimes not. Since the 40K Spartan has it this one might too, but the Spartan lost all of the shielding and defensive upgrades from 30K. There's no reason for FW to not allow this unit in 40K. It just generates more sales and broadens their market audience significantly. This is probably why they write a separate set of rules for all their new marine units, like the Xiphon and Leviathan. Change the points slightly, remove some 30K only rules, and put a 40K stamp on it: instantly you get sales from 40K players as well as 30K players. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Seeing as this is not news or rumours, I'm going to punt this over to the AoD subforum where it belongs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I think we should call it a puma! It's naht a puma. Jokes aside, it's not really very "Space Mariney" either. It looks like the kind of bigass tank the Imperial Army might have used, but not the Legions themselves. It's probably not a regular Legion unit, or even used by certain legions at all; or they put it in the reserve armouries with the malcadors et al Considering Legion size, I'm sure Legion Siege Companies or siege-focus Legions (Iron Warriors would *love* this) would make extensive use. Failing that it can be brought out of the reserve armouries for specific Compliance actions requiring such a hench vehicle. Remember, Legions were equipped to deal with all threats! Plus it fits the aesthetic, all the lines, curves & bits are very Warhammer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 If it's a Super-Heavy with void shields, and is usable in 40k, it will completely transform the way Marine armies can be played and bolster the assault immeasurably. Grav cripples Land Raiders and Spartans alike in 40k, and regular tanks are too slow and easily immobilised or destroyed. This would also be great in 30k but it won't be as much of a game changer or revelation. The Spartan is already a reliable method of driving towards your opponent in HH games. Imagine what a boon it could be for 40k Chaos as well. I hope FW are making this for both time periods! They may simply port it to 40K but remove some functionality like Void Shields. They did this with a few other vehicles. The Armoured Ceramite upgrade is sometimes allowed in 40K and sometimes not. Since the 40K Spartan has it this one might too, but the Spartan lost all of the shielding and defensive upgrades from 30K. There's no reason for FW to not allow this unit in 40K. It just generates more sales and broadens their market audience significantly. This is probably why they write a separate set of rules for all their new marine units, like the Xiphon and Leviathan. Change the points slightly, remove some 30K only rules, and put a 40K stamp on it: instantly you get sales from 40K players as well as 30K players. I think that's a fair assessment, the Leviathan specifically has fewer weapon options in 40k does it not? Still awesome though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I think the void shields would remain, but upgrades like flare shields or possible Volkyte weapons will be removed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4279980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 You are all forgetting that one it is deployed you can move units through it like a corridor. Thats why the top comes off. Useful as a gameplay mechanic: probably not. Balls to the wall awesome: Hell yeah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I just don't know how that would function or be useful in 99% of games. Most people don't play with barricades that need to be breached, or fortifications that need to be assaulted. It'll be interesting. You're my only hope Bligh Kenobi. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Maybe it'll be something like granting extra movement. Like by going through it you prevent overwatch and get at least a certain charge distance (e.g. How long it is) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I know it's going to be $400+. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 He-Man called, he wants his Attak-Trak returned forthwith. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I know it's going to be $400+. Or your soul. Whatever you're least likely to miss. But if you do, don't worry, we'll start a nice gaming group in hell :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Three guesses that there's a Rite of War to let you run Mastodons as Dedicated Transports... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I know it's going to be $400+. Or your soul. Whatever you're least likely to miss. But if you do, don't worry, we'll start a nice gaming group in hell You'd sell your soul for $400? I'll give you $500 for it, it's always good to have a spare. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I know it's going to be $400+.Or your soul. Whatever you're least likely to miss. But if you do, don't worry, we'll start a nice gaming group in hell You'd sell your soul for $400? I'll give you $500 for it, it's always good to have a spare. Hes off the list sadly, forgeworld already got it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Three guesses that there's a Rite of War to let you run Mastodons as Dedicated Transports... You are Alanpharius after all ;) jk But really though, if they did that, the US gov't would have to allow indentured servitude again for all the people that would actually run that. We'd be broke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'll take it :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Three guesses that there's a Rite of War to let you run Mastodons as Dedicated Transports...You are Alanpharius after all ;) jk But really though, if they did that, the US gov't would have to allow indentured servitude again for all the people that would actually run that. We'd be broke. I'm not gonna lie I was ready to type a two page essay on indentured servitude because I just got done taking my APUSH final. :) The mastadon I think is pretty cool, I probalby won't get one mainly because I don't see myself investing $400 into a single model unless it's a warhound. Actually are warhounds that much? Just wondering Ishagu but why do you think this will change the 40k meta so much? Deathstars loaded in a vehicle haven't really been a competitve thing since 5th edition. For 30k I just see this as a supreme spartan star that will be destroyed with graviton and Melta Missles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318301-legion-mastodon-rumors/page/2/#findComment-4280390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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