RastlinD Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Guys - I need some help, for the longest time I have not played with allies or formations and have just been waging war with the combined arms detachment. However now that I have an admech army I would like to field the following units and I wanted to see if there was any was to do this with out fielding an unbound list. I would like to field the following units....... Ad Mech Units 1 Techpriest - (Only if needed) 1 Unit of Breachers 1 Unit of Destroyers 1 Unit of Robots Skitarri Units 1 unit of Ruststalkers 1 Unit of Vanguard 1 Unit of Rangers 1 Unit of Dragoons 1 Dune Crawler Lord of War 1 Knight My question is how could I legally field this force? In addition, is there a way to field this force and use both the Skitarri and the Ad mech special rules? Thanks for your helping me step into the brave world of Allies and formations! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well, you could add one or two units* and run an Adepts Mechanics War Convocation (issue #69 of White Dwarf). Made up of a Cult Mechanics Battle Congregation, a Skitarii Battle Maniple, and an Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment. Gives everything Canticles of the Omnissiah, makes all upgrades free, and removes Gets Hot from anything in the formation that has it. * You'd need to add a unit of Infiltrators, at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Well, you could add one or two units* and run an Adepts Mechanics War Convocation (issue #69 of White Dwarf). Made up of a Cult Mechanics Battle Congregation, a Skitarii Battle Maniple, and an Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment. Gives everything Canticles of the Omnissiah, makes all upgrades free, and removes Gets Hot from anything in the formation that has it. * You'd need to add a unit of Infiltrators, at least. Either that (realy powerfull) or you field them just as you listed them. 1 Cult Battle Congregation or CAD 1 Skitarii Maniple 1 Oathsworn Detachment Knights You can also field the Breachers as "count as" Destroyers, that way you can use the Elemination Maniple and you don't need a Tech Priest anymore... There are a few options... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RastlinD Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Just to follow up if I fielded the following list that would make it unbound correct? 1 Cult Battle Congregation or CAD 1 Skitarii Maniple 1 Oathsworn Detachment Knights Or am I off base here? Also would I be able to use both the Canticles of the Omnissiah and the Skitarii special rules for each detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 That would be Battle Forged - all units are in formations or detachments that meet their minimum requirements. Units with Canticles are affected by Canticles, those with Doctrinas are affected by Doctrinas. The War Convocation formation (which would require additional units to what you have now) allows everything within it to be affected by both Canticles and Doctrinas, along with a few other special benefits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RastlinD Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Wait I did some more digging and I think I get it now..... as long as I field either faction specific detachments, formations, or combined arms/allied detachments the army is battle forged. Thus, since I am fielding three faction specific detachments the army would be battle forged and they would gain their faction specific special rules ala Canticles of the Omnissiah for the adeptus mechanicus formation, one skitarri formation, and then the knight formation. Correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Exactly. Just keep track of which units/formations/detachments have which special rules/bonuses. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4282244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread0 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Sorry to reopen this but I just wanted to confirm for my own understanding The War Convocation formation (which would require additional units to what you have now) allows everything within it to be affected by both Canticles and Doctrinas, along with a few other special benefits." The War Con allows for everything to have Canticles even though it doesn't have the rule. But I can't find anything to say that the same goes for Doctrinas. Am I reading the "Machine Brotherhood of Mars" rule wrong of does it say this somewhere else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4285894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Sorry to reopen this but I just wanted to confirm for my own understanding The War Convocation formation (which would require additional units to what you have now) allows everything within it to be affected by both Canticles and Doctrinas, along with a few other special benefits." The War Con allows for everything to have Canticles even though it doesn't have the rule. But I can't find anything to say that the same goes for Doctrinas. Am I reading the "Machine Brotherhood of Mars" rule wrong of does it say this somewhere else? No, only the Canticles are shared. There is a superformation, the Cohort Mechanicus, that gives everyone Doctrines and Canticles, in addition to 1 new unique doctrine and canticle. But that is one of every mechanicus unit, with the exception of onagers and Kastelan (You need 2 of each) and you can choose either Ballistari or Dragoons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4285901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dread0 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Thanks Brother. I Thought that was the case. Shame though, that would have made the War Con even stronger. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318443-how-do-i-field-this-army/#findComment-4285904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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