khorneguy Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 So with Retribution poised to drop within a few weeks with full rules for Shattered Legions, what are people's predictions for how the list will look and play?I'm hoping it's going to play very differently to the standard Legion list, with more focus on smaller unit sizes, raiding/ guerilla/ hit & run warfare and less emphasis on vehicles. I can also see Shattered Legions having their own set of objectives to try and score across the game (much like Knights Errant will get, judging by Garro's rules), representing the fact that they often wouldn't try and engage in full-scale war, focussing instead on raiding and hit & run tactics. I can also see them not being allowed to ally with other Legion forces, just Mechanicum and Army.What are people's thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I don't remember whether it was Shattered Legions or Blackshields, but I recall someone mentioning 15-man "Marauder" squads with some sort of access to vet/heavy weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorneguy Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 That would be very cool and fitting, considering the Shattered Legions often didn't have the numbers to field dedicated support squads.It would also give me an actual use for my spare B@C special weapons! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Meduson, with the power to summon Fire Raptors at will.And potentially a Keys of Hel based RoW that gives Iron Hands a revenant-esque army, almost rivalling Necrons in durability. Immortals as troops/ObjSec units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionary Pallas Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Shadrak bloody Meduson, with the power to summon Fire Raptors at will. FTFY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorneguy Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 I'm loving the idea of fielding Meduson as the Shattered Legions named character. His anthology inspired me to collected a Shattered Legions force in the first place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The Horusians will get Tybalt Marr, if I remember. Because while those under the Aquila were shattered, those under the Eye were spread into small forces to pursue these scattered elements. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Aye (heh, i'm not sorry), I'm hoping that the Shattered legion is not limited to the 3 Isstvan remnants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khorneguy Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 The suggestion at the end of Meduson is that there's a big showdown coming between Marr and Meduson, so that wouldn't surprise me.Kind of annoying if Marr gets rules before Aximand, or even Lucius, but it would fit in this case. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Aye (heh, i'm not sorry), I'm hoping that the Shattered legion is not limited to the 3 Isstvan remnants. Well, let's see, numerically: I - The Dark Angels have a bunch of star-forts spread about everywhere II - If you really want to put a survivor or two, without having to use their (theoretically nonexistent) rules… III - "Sure Warmaster, we'll follow them." IV - Garrisons everywhere, catching up with whoever. V - I don't think the Scars were ever a cohesive force. The Heresy only makes it worse. VI - Watch-Packs and all that stuff. VII - Surely not all of them retreated to Terra. Scattered elements from the Retribution Fleet, and garrisons. VIII - "Hey Eaters, we're off slaughtering a bunch of planets for :cuss: and giggles, wanna tag along?" IX - I don't even know what's up with them at this point. X - Got Istvaan'd hard. XI - See II XII - "Hey Night Lords, we're off committing genocide on irrelevant worlds, wanna tag along?" XIII - Surely that way they can be relevant to somewhere else than the 500 worlds? XIV - "Sure Warmaster, we'll follow them." XV - Don't know what's up with them either, but grand_master85's shattered Thousand Sons are enough of a justification XVI - "Dad said we need to finish the guys who got out of our trap." XVII - "Hey Hounds, we're sacrificing skirt-wearers for our new gods, wanna slaughter along?" XVIII - Got Istvaan'd hard XIX - Got Istvaan'd hard, + Nomad-Predators joining with whoever they find first XX - "Oh, hi, by the way have I mentioned I was actually an Alpha Legionnaire? Don't worry, I'm still loyal to you cause, I was just finding your legion's colors ugly." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Meduson, with the power to summon Fire Raptors at will. And potentially a Keys of Hel based RoW that gives Iron Hands a revenant-esque army, almost rivalling Necrons in durability. Immortals as troops/ObjSec units. This is my current hope judging by the bit of fluff after Ferrus dies in book 2. Saying some of the Xth went mad on a rampage with forbidden tech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 And the book "Riven". Zombie robot Iron Hands rampaging through a SoH fleet is the stuff of dreams. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 And the book "Riven". Zombie robot Iron Hands rampaging through a SoH fleet is the stuff of dreams. New information to me and I LOVE IT. Aye (heh, i'm not sorry), I'm hoping that the Shattered legion is not limited to the 3 Isstvan remnants. It won't be :) it's why they have the little campaign bits about BA/DA/WS/AL etc shattered legion rules will also represent small strike forces operating far from the main legion (loyalist example) or kill teams sent to eradicate Istvaan survivors/ Loyalist cells (Traitor example). But Atia has said there will be some "Juicy rules" for something akin to a RG/ IH/ SaL combined list when I mentioned I might be doing something like that <3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 But Atia has said there will be some "Juicy rules" for something akin to a RG/ IH/ SaL combined list when I mentioned I might be doing something like that <3 yeah you will get f.e. Meduson as special char (he is cool isn't he?) actually can't wait to write some test army lists for shattered legions/black shields/chymaeres (might write it wrong haha)/traitor hunting groups ^.^ that list will be a dream if you can't decide what legion to paint haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 BTW, we theoretically already have a Blackshield character: Crysos Morturg, although he still abides by the rules of the XIV. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 BTW, we theoretically already have a Blackshield character: Crysos Morturg, although he still abides by the rules of the XIV. two actually ;) according to fluff, our good old Caleb Decima is also a black shield now after Istvaan ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 But Atia has said there will be some "Juicy rules" for something akin to a RG/ IH/ SaL combined list when I mentioned I might be doing something like that <3 yeah you will get f.e. Meduson as special char (he is cool isn't he?) actually can't wait to write some test army lists for shattered legions/black shields/chymaeres (might write it wrong haha)/traitor hunting groups ^.^ that list will be a dream if you can't decide what legion to paint haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Which explains the "most were astartes, but not all of them" bit. Still need a blackshiels knight. Preferrably in a Cerastus frame. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 But Atia has said there will be some "Juicy rules" for something akin to a RG/ IH/ SaL combined list when I mentioned I might be doing something like that <3 yeah you will get f.e. Meduson as special char (he is cool isn't he?) actually can't wait to write some test army lists for shattered legions/black shields/chymaeres (might write it wrong haha)/traitor hunting groups ^.^ that list will be a dream if you can't decide what legion to paint haha sadly, I'm out of likes .... <3 but yeah, there are soooo much ideas for this stuff, it's going to be amazing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318562-shattered-legions-predictions/#findComment-4285594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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