Lord Blackwood Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 So Im curious as to what the best platforms for Conversion Beamer and Heavy Conversion Beamer Weapons are. I was thinking predators would be ideal right? You get the heavy conversion beamer and you just stick em far back on the board and let them bomb things? You dont have to take dozer blades or anything since you prolly will only pivot them at worst ? I reckon contemptors are a bad idea for this since youll likely be moving them a lot ? Anyway hopefully someone whos used the weapons a bit more can let me know what direction to go in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I like my heavy conversion beamer on my Contemptor, but that's because I like techy gadgets that showcase the weakness of flesh. Preds are cool with them, techmarines not so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Can heresy tech marines not ride a bike? In 40k I've put a bike riding relentless conversion beamer to great use. He's mobile enough to stay at extreme range where the weapon is most useful and can exploit good fire arcs too. Also, mink saves keep him alive long enough to hit more than couple of times if you're lucky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 A Forge Lord can; hell he can even ride a Jetbike. But Normal Techmarines are just an Elite Non-IC Selection that has no access to bikes, Jump packs or TDA. Thats what the Forge Lord is for. Think Apothecary to Primus Medicae. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 So what are you saying Slips , only if im gonna do a forgelord do I spend money on a conversion beamer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Even then I probably wouldnt since a Forge Lord will usually be in a Close-Ranged unit; not skirting in the backfield with his Beamer for S10 Shots. Unless thats what you want to do but then your kinda wasting some of his utility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 So there is nothing but a predator to put it on ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I think the Predator is the best option. You get a Large Blast on a Tank for the price of a Small Blast on a Character. Plus, you can squadron them up to 3, which is a flexibility you don't have with Forge Lords. Contemptors suffer because of price. And because they are a Walker, you want the ability to stomp forward and smash face in combat - the Firing Calibration rule stops this from happening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I think the Predator is the best option. You get a Large Blast on a Tank for the price of a Small Blast on a Character. Plus, you can squadron them up to 3, which is a flexibility you don't have with Forge Lords. Contemptors suffer because of price. And because they are a Walker, you want the ability to stomp forward and smash face in combat - the Firing Calibration rule stops this from happening. Now if only you could upgrade both weapons on a Contemptor to a HCB then it would be worth it just for the awesome model... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I have a mobile unit of three conversion beamer Magi I use with Mechanicum, and honestly the minimum effective range is a killjoy. You do not want this on anything that you want punching stuff in the face, so I'd leave it for the tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4293973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostmourne Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Anyone actually tried to model one on a Pred? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin_Monkey Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Anyone actually tried to model one on a Pred? The Pred Executioner comes with the option for it: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/Deimos-Pattern-Predator-Executioner alternatively find someone who bought the dune crawlers for a 40k mech army who doesn't need the nice large one that is one of tis weapon options Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I ran a pair of HCB predators in my last game. If you have POTMs you can even load them up with sponsons to give them even more firepower. It's spendy though. We found them effective, but only because we knew what we were going up against ahead of time. If you know you're facing off against medium range anti tank like rapiers or venators, then the HCB predator is a good option. That said, the real limiting factor is that AP4 on the second weapon profile. Strength 8 isn't bad, but as soon as somebody is within 48" everybody gets a save and the tank is suddenly much less useful. Not being ordinance is also a big bummer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I like sitting them in a table corner with their flanks protected by each other and the board. Good for sniping off long shots, provided you're canny enough to leave empty avenues and fire lanes during set up. 3 Large S10 AP1 Blasts are something to make many units think twice about attempting to cross a no-mans land - especially if you can pin them in place with Assail/Graviton or even get a flank on a Spartan, Cover Save or no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 If only you could give them the Perfect Timing psychic power for Ignores Cover (I think thats what that does?). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 well I guess i might get a pair of predators with beamers then ... A lot of my current tanks are fast and mobile but I lack artliery save my mortar teams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318839-conversion-beamers-and-heavy-conversion-beamers/#findComment-4294267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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