Marshal Loss Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 In the new soh rite of war, infantry units get a rule based on where the majority of their models are, but the wording doesn't seem to fully clarify whether it means the entire army or the unit in question. The wording is: Infantry units with LA:soh gain one of the following special rules from the beginning of their player turn until the end of the opponents next player turn when the majority of its models begin that player turn in the area indicated: Relentless in friendly deployment Fleet in no man's land Crusader in enemy deployment I am confused as to whether each unit gets a bonus depending on location, or simply all units receive the same bonus. Does 'majority of its models' refer to a unit, or the all units? I'd appreciate any thoughts on how this should be played. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I read it that all units get the same special rule, the special rule is determined by the location of the majority of models (not units) - but's thats just my opinion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'd say each unit gets its own rule based on where the models in it are. The idea is to keep them moving forward at top speed basically. The wording to me is basically: each unit gets one of three rules, which rule they get is based on where the majority of the models in the unit are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 The wording to me is basically: each unit gets one of three rules, which rule they get is based on where the majority of the models in the unit are. This is how I read it to be honest. I am curious how you would run Rapier Carriages though. The infantry would get Relentless if they are in your deployment zone therefore giving the USR to your the carriages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I'd say it's on a per unit basis, as the rule sates "its" models : to me this clearly indicates the models of an individual unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 I also read it as each unit gets a separate rule - but that is by far the stronger interpretation. Wish I'd thought to ask Alan Bligh or Andy Hoare... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I also read it as each unit gets a separate rule - but that is by far the stronger interpretation. Wish I'd thought to ask Alan Bligh or Andy Hoare... Which interpretation ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Yeah, I agree with Lysere. The rule refers to units, but uses "it's models" as a clarifier rather than "their models", which lends itself to a unit by unit basis. This seems a cleaner interpretation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4299934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My first impression was it was on a unit by unit basis, but someone mentioned it was supposed to be where the majority of the models are - and unfortunately, FW didn't do a good job with specificity. It'd make more sense to me that it's on a unit by unit basis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4300732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My first impression was it was on a unit by unit basis, but someone mentioned it was supposed to be where the majority of the models are - and unfortunately, FW didn't do a good job with specificity. It'd make more sense to me that it's on a unit by unit basis. The unit's models are what you use to figure out where the majority of the unit is. Not your armies models. They just do majority so you can't leave one guy in your deployment zone and claim relentless with some multi meltas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4300807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 My first impression was it was on a unit by unit basis, but someone mentioned it was supposed to be where the majority of the models are - and unfortunately, FW didn't do a good job with specificity. It'd make more sense to me that it's on a unit by unit basis. Grammatically, the RaW state that it is unit by unit. I do agree though that it isn't necessarily very clear, especially for those who don't speak English as first language. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4300831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athrawes Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The wording to me is basically: each unit gets one of three rules, which rule they get is based on where the majority of the models in the unit are. This is how I read it to be honest. I am curious how you would run Rapier Carriages though. The infantry would get Relentless if they are in your deployment zone therefore giving the USR to your the carriages. Wait, why would the rule confer Relentless to rapier carriages. I agree that the crew would get it, but the carriage? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4301363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 The wording to me is basically: each unit gets one of three rules, which rule they get is based on where the majority of the models in the unit are. This is how I read it to be honest. I am curious how you would run Rapier Carriages though. The infantry would get Relentless if they are in your deployment zone therefore giving the USR to your the carriages. Wait, why would the rule confer Relentless to rapier carriages. I agree that the crew would get it, but the carriage? Agreed. The crewmen gain Relentless, the Rapier does not. Relentless is not a conferred rule, unlike S&P. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4301371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastelAvenger Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I had a moment where I thought it was conferred as well it's rare that I would mix match Relentless units cheers for the clarification Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318968-long-march-wording-help/#findComment-4301633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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