noigrim Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 1500 Ferrus 410 Termis, 4 fists, combi 230 10 vets, meltabombs (outflank) 225 Sicaran 135 Sicaran 135 Typhon, ceramite 370 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Primarchs Chosen doesn't allow for Lords of War Selections to be taken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4307475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Slips is right, it prevent a Lord of War in the same detachment unfortunately :-( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted February 16, 2016 Author Share Posted February 16, 2016 pff useless RoW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Not really. It's pretty good if you want to bring a Primarch without needing to spend further points on a HQ. I see it's main use at game of 2k points to be fair, and don't feel a Typhon is a mandatory addition to every army... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 If you're looking for Pure OP Cheese, Sure? But thats not the intent behind 30k anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 You can bring a Primarch and two Imperial Knights at 2k points now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 You can bring a Primarch and two Imperial Knights at 2k points now... I mean, cool, 3 models taking up more than half your list in points :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 You can bring a Primarch and two Imperial Knights at 2k points now... I mean, cool, 3 models taking up more than half your list in points :pTwo Crusaders backfield pretty much provide as much firepower if not more than 800 points of tanks, and are more reliable/durable. There's plenty of points left over for a Primarch and a few bodyguards, and 2 Tac squads in Rhinos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4308357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 pff useless RoW Bc it doesn't allow you to cheat? You didn't read the rules farther than assuming you could force in another LoW for your opponent to deal with. That isn't the Rite's fault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4309562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 If you're looking for Pure OP Cheese, Sure? But thats not the intent behind 30k anyways. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/cmon/Anime/nichijou-principal-german-suplex-deer.gif pff useless RoW Bc it doesn't allow you to cheat? You didn't read the rules farther than assuming you could force in another LoW for your opponent to deal with. That isn't the Rite's fault. http://31.media.tumblr.com/5b3ccb6f9553ff1ccd8a443a38efeb7c/tumblr_mu42zblt0b1svp3buo4_500.gif Ding Ding Ding Ding Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4309654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Brutality! Does the rite allow for anything more other than Vets and Terminators as troops? Teleportation for Terminators? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4309808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Brutality! Does the rite allow for anything more other than Vets and Terminators as troops? Teleportation for Terminators? Not that I know of; besides a fair few of the Primarchs shift units to troops anyways :p But! If the Primarch Dies, everything in your list is Denial and can no longer score. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4309809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pounder Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Hey guys, I need a quick answer on this as I'll be using it tomorrow. I've made a 2k list from what I have at hand. Here's the list: Guilliman (HQ) 5 Suzerain and Landraider (Troops) 2 Tactical Squads with Rhinos (Troops) Locutarus (Fast Attack) Sicaran with Lascannons (Heavy Support) Fulmentarus with Cyclone Missile Launchers (Heavy Support) Total: 2000pts. Now, is this a legal list using this RoW? Or do I have to take Veterans and Terminators as my compulsory troops choices? Please help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I was under the assumption only Terminators and Veteran Tacticals could be troops I was considering something like this at 2.5Dorn 5x TH SS Terminators ( tartoros ) in a Spartan AC/FS/DB10x Veteran Tacs (sniper ) 2xHB in a Rhino 1x Contemptor Kheres and Grav Gun in a Pod3x Thudd Gun Rapiers 2x Grav Cannon Rapiers Deredeo w/Missles Sicaran Battle Tank DB / Las Cannons Sicaran Venator DB Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Yeah, only Terminators and Veteran Tacticals are compulsory Troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Guilliman can always take Suzerain (and Legion Terminators) as troops. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Yeah, "Primarch's Chosen" is definitely better for some Primarchs over others: - Guilliman & Dorn can already take Legion Terminators, - Horus can take Veterans & Justaerin (which are now better than Legion Terminators). Still have the benefit of being a HQ choice instead of LoW, but not as flash. Someone like Alpharius could rock around in a unit of Tartaros Terminators with Preferred Enemy, and Perturabo still likes his Terminator army... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Guilliman can always take Suzerain (and Legion Terminators) as troops. aye but for the FoC requirements he would need to take 2 units of termis or vets and then he would be able to take Suverians Yeah, only Terminators and Veteran Tacticals are compulsory Troops. emphasis mine Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Guilliman does have a rule outright stating he unlocks Invectarus Suzerains as troops, so they would also work for the RoW I guess? You'd need one unit of Veterans/Termies and one unit of Suzerains, or two units of Suzerains/Termies I guess... If not 2 units of Vets aren't a huge investment, especially if you don't take special weapons... *Edit* Doesn't Dorn make Templar brethren into troops? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 All of the Primarch/Special Character unlocks do not do one thing: they don't override the fact that "Legion Veteran Squads or Legion Terminator squads must be taken as compulsory Troops choices for this army". So, if you have Dorn, you get Phalanx Warders as Troops, but they won't count as compulsory choices in "Primarch's Chosen" - you'll have to take 1 Vet/1 Terminator, or 2 Vets, or 2 Terminators. It's the same as Pride of the Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4312788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Question is, are Legion-specific Elites unlocked by this as well like they are in Pride of the Legion? So would Phoenix Guard be troops with Fulgrim? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4313322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Question is, are Legion-specific Elites unlocked by this as well like they are in Pride of the Legion? So would Phoenix Guard be troops with Fulgrim? Nope. Legion Veterans & Legion Terminators must be compulsory troops, but nothing about Legion specific units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4313344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 No, it doesn't specifically call out any Legion-specific Terminators like it does in PotL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4313351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I thought special rules always override standard rules :-P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319293-primarchs-chosen/#findComment-4313377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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