Theredknight Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Had a browse so thought I'd post up. Looking at a game soon 12k either side. Does anyone know if it's in a book somewhere? Is it 3k with force org then whatever you like? I have all sorts that wants to come to the table, just won't fit in a force org charts. I.e. Your limited to 4x 3k lists it's not a lot when you have to satisfy criteria etc. In 40k the idea is 'bring what you like' (ironically, that's just 40k now) So how does it work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 There isn't an official Apocalypse port for 30k. You're supposed to use AoD force Orgs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4319981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 4aod force orgs? What a ball ache. I don't think I even own that many troops choices Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4319983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 They added the alternate Force Orgs for that reason, Leviathan for super heavies, raider for elite heavy, onslaught for heavy support lists and so on. Some prohibit rites of war too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4319984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 So I'm going to guess that a row chosen for that particular force org will only apply to that force org. I play ec you see, so not many great benefits outside the kakophoni one! I guess il have to look. But it makes sense tbh. It's just get confusing to remember in battle I think once your army all crunches together if that make sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4319988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 The easiest way to think about it is to divide your army up into the various FOCs and play each as it's own army, but with one player. So like using Fists as an example, you've got your stone gauntlet AoD army and a leviathan super heavy detachment that are two different armies under the command of the same player. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4319990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 We have always just pointed up larger armies to an approximation of the Focs, ultimately when you are running a apocalypse sized game the existing systems are going to strain and break and you need to decide between yourselves. If its a team game the simplest way is just to have multiple separate armies at least. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4320017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Noserenda is on the money. If it's apocalypse you'll be house ruling so much anyway just aim to have as much fun as possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4320041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 For 10k+ Games think of the FoCs as "Guidelines" more than anything Tangible, really... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4320118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think it can be done in force orgs, as they are suitable up to 3500-4k. It's basically dividing the army up into different sections, as you might do in a real battle. I don't see why you can't use the same row for them. I will have enough kakophoni to fill a couple of charts. Obviously special characters are one off goes without saying. Bringing a warhound, fell blade and fulgrim can use the leviathan list. I can use the aod ones for the rest. Although. Does it make much difference to just piling all your army into one list really? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4320287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Good news! Page 160 of Book Five: If the game is too big, use Apocalypse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4324207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Well done marshal!! I shall browse that section, good show!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319750-how-does-apoc-work-in-30k/#findComment-4324333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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