Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I'm just wondering if either of dkok lists from fw are any good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Good is a relative term, but yes they work. You're bound somewhat by the nature of the lists in that they're built to work in a certain way so you're best off following that. I'm not sure you could say they're the most competitive of lists but they can pack a wallop and come with some nifty tricks - but again that depends on what you take and how you built the army :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4323683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I just thought they looked like a lot of fun, and of course the dkok models are gorgeous....however, I feel they'd get their ass handed to them by tau and eldar, and as those are the two armies I play most often I dunno if I wanna go there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4323785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderPirate Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 They're both definitely good fun to play, but I'm not the man to ask about competitiveness though... They've got access to the colossus, with its ignores cover AP3 templates for scaring jetbikes, but not sure how to handle things like wraithknights without allies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4323946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm thinking shadowswords with void shield generators for wk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4324173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 They definitely lack in terms of competitiveness, but can they beat Tau and Eldar? Yeah, it'll take some work, and you'll do your fair share of losing until you figure it out, but it can be done. Grenadiers have hotshots, so there's your massed AP3 fire, you have WS4 army wide, making them hit better in CC, you should only be there against tau, not eldar. For tau you need to isolate their units of you plan to assault, because supporting fire is brutal. On the Upside, kill points don't matter much these days, and you can get away with just sending wave after wave of infantry at your opponent, because if you use the forlorn hope rule, you get an unlimited supply of infantry platoons, as long as the platoon is annihilated. Casualties don't matter, who cares if your platoon is too close to the enemy, artillery anyway. Guard Philosophy 101: Drown them in corpses, yours or theirs, it matters not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4324239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm thinking shadowswords with void shield generators for wk Also, be careful with superheavies. The FW Apoc rulebook says that most baneblade chassis can be taken as lords or war choices for Codex Imperial Guard, there is no Codex IG anymore. While FW hasn't released an FAQ (to my knowledge) saying that C:IG and C:AM/C:MT are all Imperial guard and that everything is kosher, some folks might argue whether or not the "standard" baneblades may be taken for DKoK. I know that Battlescribe won't let you have a standard baneblade with a DKoK army. That said, I haven't seen anything in the IA books that says you cannot take a Baneblade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4324252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 Yeah, I don't play in tourney and my local group is pretty cool about stuff. To them its just another IG army. Lol I like that philosophy, it matches my philosophy with my kdk Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4324483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderPirate Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 It doesn't sound like it matters, but there's a list of LoW included in the back of the DKoK Siege Assault list. I think its mainly things like Malcadors and the Gorgon, but a Shadowsword might be in there somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4324911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truesight Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The DKK Siege regiment has access to the Baneblade Super-Heavy Tank. I think you could make a good argument it's variants are also available. Death Korps can do very well competitively, although of course not to the level of completely cheesed out Eldar or Tau. As long as you aren't seeing 3 wraithknights or 2 stormsurge riptide wing they will serve you well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The Montka booklet included baneblades and variants as formations Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lol I actually see 3 wk regularly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truesight Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Lol I actually see 3 wk regularly Sorry to hear it :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 3, 2016 Author Share Posted March 3, 2016 The tau player doesnt use his surge much, and its been months since I've seen his riptide. The ghost keels are bad enough Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rommel44 Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 DKOK can be competitive and the models are amazing so that in itself is worth taking l9l. I field the DKOK Grenadier Assault Brigade list and so far it has served me very well. I have yet to go against the Eldar but I have beaten the new Tau and there new War Machines with my lost as I utilize a lot of Storm Chimeras packed with Storm Troopers. Currently 1-1-3 against the new Tau and there Shenanigans, however I have basically dominated Space Marines and their Chaos cousins thankS to all of the AP3 running around. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4325515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Thanks for all the insight and advice! Do you guys know if the cadia mission cards are cadia specific or just generic imp guard? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4326057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Cadia specific But tbh for friendly games I don't know why an opponent would complain if u used them or cadian supplement for any guard regiment its not like we have chapter tactics for the others (I guess with the exception of the FW but people still use them as counts as anyways) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4326078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I think the Korps can be quite good in their new list. For a competitive play there's either artillery spam or cavalry spam. Both are quite good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4327084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khar'vros the Crazed Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 About the only thing I'd spam is platoons of korpsmen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4327106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherthefallenangel Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I use the assault brigade list all the time and they usually do great but I mitigate some of their weaknesses with allies. I take the infantry and artillery elements from DKoK then if I want armor I ally with IA1.2 for scoring thunderers and beasthunter vanquishers. In a more competitive tournament list( I fight fire with fire.) I bring a Baronial Court formation with recycling DKoK infantry platoons and carcass shot griffens. *(not recommended for friendly games)*. Edit. Stupid autocorrect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319894-death-korps-of-krieg-list-question/#findComment-4327255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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