GhostMalone Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Now I've been trying to drum up information regarding the marauder bomber, now I know the Destroyer is 40k only but I'm wanting to use the bomber as a Low for my militia and solar auxilia even though they aren't in the list. Now before I drop the cash I want to make sure people are okay with it in the community. I'm aware that book 1 betrayal does allow the user of the apocalypse unit entries but I want to know if the community sees it's place in the heresy setting. Let's not get to off topic with game play rules and :cuss like that, just want to know of anyone knows if they are in the setting and if people think it's a suitable Low Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Unless something changed a counts as destroyer can be taken Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Unless something changed a counts as destroyer can be taken Even though lore wise it was developed during armmageddon? I was thinking of doing a colossus that carries a 10,000 tone warhead but rules wise v fluff wise I don't think it's use able Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Think of it as laying point for a set of capabilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 10 thousand ton warhead? 20 million pounds? No bomber is going to carry that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Depends on whether or not that is talking about the warheads actual weight, which would be dumb, or its equivalent "weight" in tnt. That's actually fairly small for 40k. The Tsar bomb was over twice as powerful as that. Still stupidly, landscape altering power, but it pales in comparison to say a cyclonic torpedo that supposedly can crack a planets crust. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Nuclear weapons are measured in kilotons or megatons, and none of those three terms was mentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Can't see why you couldn't use it, the destroyer is just a differently armed marauder from memory. Who is to say it wasn't re-invented 10 millennia later? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 True true the information is from the 40k wikia but apparently aeronautica imperias covers the model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 If anyone has a copy and can give me a rundown overview it will help make my decision a bit easier Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangaman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Just do it :D Do eeeeeeeeet!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 5, 2016 Author Share Posted March 5, 2016 Well I guess I'll just do it what they hell I've been practicing painting ww2 pinup art on miniature scale so I guess everyone will just have to see how this idea turns out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GogglesDown Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The HH books specifically deal with this. Basically you can take anything out of IA and even though it may not have existed in 30k, something equivalent probably did and we just don't have records of it anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The HH books specifically deal with this. Basically you can take anything out of IA and even though it may not have existed in 30k, something equivalent probably did and we just don't have records of it anymore. Only if there isn't a 30k Equivalent, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Well it's a bomber. Just say that it was a nice STC that was refounded for Armageddon. Instead of conventional bombs have it carry a H-bomb or something. Ultimately our opponents opinions don't matter much. Are the people you play against okay with it? If so then yes. If no then try to circumvent it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 This is explicitly allowed. And precisely because it isn't developed until Armageddon, means that its unlikely to change (unless FW change the wording of the rule). The Marauder Destroyer is awesome, although suffers a bit from being a FW vehicle from 3rd edition. Its about 150pts overcosted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4326874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 If anyone has a copy and can give me a rundown overview it will help make my decision a bit easier Is this of any use? http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302753-imperial-armour-discussion-flyers-and-skimmers/?p=3935013&do=findComment&comment=3935013 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4328678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aiwass Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Go for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4328751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 If anyone has a copy and can give me a rundown overview it will help make my decision a bit easierIs this of any use? http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302753-imperial-armour-discussion-flyers-and-skimmers/?p=3935013&do=findComment&comment=3935013 That's a perfect summary thanks mate Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4329057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audemus Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I'm probably going to be a Negative Nancy here but, from someone who has put that sizable sum of money on the table for a Marauder Destroyer, I urge you to highly consider what else you're capable of getting with that money. Not that it isn't a pretty model once it is completed (if that's what you're going for, have at it, just be ready for a mass clean up on the mold) but the Destroyer at least is a relatively bad one trick pony in standard 40k and I'm fairly certain Flare Shields will make those missiles even less of a threat in 30k. You also have to keep in mind the sheer size of the model means it can't really circle the battlefield even on a large table like those we have at our store...it basically flies in, annoys a few things with its auto-cannons (once the missiles are spent) and occasionally the rear assault cannons and then it's back off the table after two turns where it will slumber for a turn before returning to rinse/repeat. The bomber variant has some really destructive bombs but those seem to be frowned on in normal games as they were designed for massive games but that's probably up to your gaming group. Also, please let me stress that this model requires some relatively extreme work to clean up and even make it partially ready to be constructed and Forge World provides no real instructions for you going in. I ended up needing a diamond file and a large saw tooth handsaw which went through 2 entire blades before I had even separated the mold blocks from the parts. The amount of dust I was generating made breathing difficult and I had to wear a filter mask just to complete the task, which took over an hour, and even then I had to do additional clean up and finally green stuff to fill in the gaps left by the mold. This is just my way of trying to make sure that you know exactly what you're getting into with this monster as, while it taught me a lot of about resin and working with it, I don't think I would spend the funds on something that was so difficult to even transport to games if I could do it over. Here's a picture of mine on a Dragon Forge base with a 12" acrylic rod for support...followed by a picture of all the components still on their mold blocks so you can take a look at the whole thing. http://i.imgur.com/Jdy2bZR.png http://i.imgur.com/s75SoSG.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4329691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Audemus mate your a godsend, now I'm happy to do this as more a Labour of love rather than a actual gaming Piece so I appreciate your advice now I think I'll stick to a bomber and will only field it against my little brother as the aim of our games are bigger is better were looking at commanding 2-3 full armies and full use of Foc and allies. Now needless to say I need a challenge and this sounds right for me. Your Destroyer looks amazing man and if anything you haven't turned me off of thus project in fact (mind the terminology) I'm fully turned on by this project Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4329737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audemus Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Audemus mate your a godsend, now I'm happy to do this as more a Labour of love rather than a actual gaming Piece so I appreciate your advice now I think I'll stick to a bomber and will only field it against my little brother as the aim of our games are bigger is better were looking at commanding 2-3 full armies and full use of Foc and allies. Now needless to say I need a challenge and this sounds right for me. Your Destroyer looks amazing man and if anything you haven't turned me off of thus project in fact (mind the terminology) I'm fully turned on by this project Awesome man! I wasn't trying to turn you off the project so much as I was ensuring that you were aware of what you were getting into. I opened this huge, banged up, box to find 1 sheet of paper printed front and back for instructions...except there were no actual instructions. It was more than a bit disconcerting to make leaps of logic when building the beast. You *will* need a base like the one I showed you, I would recommend Dragon Forge because he has the the thicker acrylic rods and larger bases that are pretty much imperative to keeping this thing stable on the table. The base shown in my picture is a 200mm flight base that comes with the acrylic rod and mounting point, which you don't have to glue into, but you do have to keep in mind that Dragon Forge is run by a single guy and as such there can be time delays between placing your orders and receiving them. He keeps the front page of his site updated regularly with where he is in the process of fulfilling orders though and is extremely nice, you won't go long periods of time without an update if you email him to ask that's for sure. Forge World only includes a Valkyrie flight base and a tiny 6 inch stand like the Valkyrie/Vultures etc have...aka your bomber will be running into every piece of terrain on the board if you try to use it. My base is located in this link, scroll to the bottom and look for 200 mm Round Base - Thick Variant 2 With 3/4 12" Flight Stand Kit IMP. ( Click Here ) If you need more reference pictures of mine, you can find them in the following album where I describe the project: ( Click Here ) Also, if at any point in the building process you find yourself unsure of how a piece fits together, please don't hesitate to PM me here on the board and I will grab close up pics of the section you're working on to try and make things a bit clearer for you. Good luck with the project! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4330258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 I will be hitting you up for sure buddy, and yeah I use dragon forge a fair bit so I'll be using a trench style base in conjunction with my secret weapon bases. Now it's just time to plan out and manage my hobby time to get this guy done Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4330340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Cannot wait to see this, if it happens. One of my favourite nostalgia photos from the old Imperial Armour books (ie, before Volume 1 1st edition) was of an old airbase diorama, with Thunderbolts and Marauders lined up being reloaded by Sentinel Loaders. I sincerely hope that there is a Solar Auxilia variant list to allow that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4330738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Its such a cool model too >_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320033-using-a-marauder-bomber-in-30k/#findComment-4330868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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