DarKnight Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 In terms of applied tactics, mindset, and actions. Some Legions are numerous enough to easily have multiple specialties and troop types, but as far as preferred doctrines. Personally I'd say the X and the XIV Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The Iron Hands and Death Guard were essentially the same and took the same outlook on personal and interpersonal strength over all things. However the real difference is one puts its strength in flesh and blood, where as the other pushes strength through Iron. The Death Guard find their strength from overcoming hardship, wearing wounds as pride and pushing through any walls in their path. The Iron Hands as we all know find their strength from mental fortification, insane willpower (which can be applied to the Death Guard) and upgrading their body with lumps of iron In all aspects, they are pretty much the same. A blunt hammer to endlessly batter enemy forces into submission. Even their Primarchs are pretty similar, Ferrus and Mortarion both expected everything from their warriors and accepted nothing short of Victory. Both grew on worlds in which the planets were essentially barren rocky landscapes short of clean or any vegetation and mostly inhospitable. Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Mortarion never reached the "top dog position" on his planet though. His position was not unlike Angron's tbh ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Mortarion never reached the "top dog position" on his planet though. His position was not unlike Angron's tbh ^^ Yeah of course, but he did reach top-dog, the planet loved him before that as a liberator who brought freedom to his subjects Its just the final obstacle really pushed his story forward! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Imperial Fists and Ultramarines Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You mean within the legion, right? Probably the smaller ones, Raven Guard, Salamanders, Thousand Sons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 I would actually put forward the World Eaters and White Scars. An obsession with their ways of warfare, strict traditions (more tribal in the White Scars case) and a lot more warrior than soldier when we look at the whole legion. Both are utterly relentless in acquiring their prey and can arrive to put the torch to a planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Mortarion never reached the "top dog position" on his planet though. His position was not unlike Angron's tbh ^^ Yeah of course, but he did reach top-dog, the planet loved him before that as a liberator who brought freedom to his subjects Its just the final obstacle really pushed his story forward! Did he? If I remember it correctly, it was the Emperor who killed Mortis "adoptiv father"? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Mortarion never reached the "top dog position" on his planet though. His position was not unlike Angron's tbh ^^ Yeah of course, but he did reach top-dog, the planet loved him before that as a liberator who brought freedom to his subjects Its just the final obstacle really pushed his story forward! Did he? If I remember it correctly, it was the Emperor who killed Mortis "adoptiv father"? Yeah, but he was already at the top, the Barbarans loved him for saving them from all the Mutant Overlords. Its just that Final kill he did not grab that really pushed the downfall of the Legion before he joined, the planet if I recall correctly was pretty much free from the Mutants bar that final kill. It could be argued that if the Emperor did not turn up then, that even that final mutant could have been slain. Look at the state of the Barbarans in the Death Guard as an example, they look up to the Lord of Death and push him above the Emperor, and as we see with the Heresy, follow him to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The Blood Angels are probably up there too, as a general thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 The Blood Angels are probably up there too, as a general thing. You mind elaborating brother? Is it due to the thirst? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The Iron Hands and Death Guard were essentially the same and took the same outlook on personal and interpersonal strength over all things. However the real difference is one puts its strength in flesh and blood, where as the other pushes strength through Iron. The Death Guard find their strength from overcoming hardship, wearing wounds as pride and pushing through any walls in their path. The Iron Hands as we all know find their strength from mental fortification, insane willpower (which can be applied to the Death Guard) and upgrading their body with lumps of iron In all aspects, they are pretty much the same. A blunt hammer to endlessly batter enemy forces into submission. Even their Primarchs are pretty similar, Ferrus and Mortarion both expected everything from their warriors and accepted nothing short of Victory. Both grew on worlds in which the planets were essentially barren rocky landscapes short of clean or any vegetation and mostly inhospitable. Even the walls they encountered were similar, both having to overcome great challenges to reach the top dog position on the planet. Yes and no. They're similar in some aspects, but their modus operandi is vastly different. I'd say the White Scars and Death Guard are more like-minded than the Xth and XIVth. Both Legions were outsiders, mainly by choice. Their Primarchs were misunderstood by most (except Horus it seems), and they had a penchant for being loners. I believe Jaghatai Khan even makes a comment to Mortarion on Ullanor about how much they have in common. Night Lords and Raven Guard are very similar... much more similar than I'm sure Corax cares to admit. The same goes with World Eaters and Space Wolves, and I'll put money down that the War Hounds and Space Wolves could have swapped places and no one would have noticed (pre-Nails, obv.). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Considering Corax nuked Kaivahr, Im certain he was just as terrifying to them as Curze was to Nostramans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I would actually put forward the World Eaters and White Scars. An obsession with their ways of warfare, strict traditions (more tribal in the White Scars case) and a lot more warrior than soldier when we look at the whole legion. Both are utterly relentless in acquiring their prey and can arrive to put the torch to a planet. I was going to say White Scars, but there was a big split between the Chogorian Scars and the Terran Scars. They even came to blows (well, I don't think that was Chogorian vs Terran but the legion did) which isn't very like minded ;) I'm confused. I thought the question was which legions are the most like minded within the legion, as opposed to which pairs of legions are most like minded. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Considering Corax nuked Kaivahr, Im certain he was just as terrifying to them as Curze was to Nostramans. Corax also let murderers into his legion (kaedes nex?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Considering Corax nuked Kaivahr, Im certain he was just as terrifying to them as Curze was to Nostramans. Corax also let murderers into his legion (kaedes nex?) Most legions did, Its very hard to find a legion that did not have a Legionary who was not a murderer, violent thug or criminal before joining the legion as they were prime stock. (to an extent I am sure) I mean, take a look at Cthonia, Nostramo, Terra and most of the homeworlds, the ideal choice were already violent and strong characters. That is the one thing i never really got about the kaedes nex story. It seems that the only reason there was any grief with him was because of his notoriety on Kiavahr. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 I would actually put forward the World Eaters and White Scars. An obsession with their ways of warfare, strict traditions (more tribal in the White Scars case) and a lot more warrior than soldier when we look at the whole legion. Both are utterly relentless in acquiring their prey and can arrive to put the torch to a planet. I was going to say White Scars, but there was a big split between the Chogorian Scars and the Terran Scars. They even came to blows (well, I don't think that was Chogorian vs Terran but the legion did) which isn't very like minded ;)I'm confused. I thought the question was which legions are the most like minded within the legion, as opposed to which pairs of legions are most like minded. I meant the former. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted March 6, 2016 Author Share Posted March 6, 2016 Considering Corax nuked Kaivahr, Im certain he was just as terrifying to them as Curze was to Nostramans. I'm quite sure he wasn't cackling malevolently while doing it though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4327944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothbrush of Terra Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 If the question is internal ideological cohesion, then I'd say the X Legion is pretty far from top of the list. Let's not forget what Medusa is like - it's a post-apocalyptic hellscape with clans of techno-barbarians fighting each other just to scrape by and survive. Ferrus intentionally kept that mentality of strife alive in his legion in order to make his troops stronger. And - depending on exactly when we're talking - let's not forget the post-Ferrus Clan Council setup that came to be, which was entirely borne out of multiple Clans being unable to agree on what to do next. And, finally, two of the high profile Iron Hands we're aware of (Autek Mor and Meduson) are very distrusted by their brethren. Iron Hands are a Legion of brutally efficient soldiers on the battlefield, yes - but off the battlefield, their hearts are still those of the techno-barbarians, in a constant struggle for survival even among their own. The only reason I think why the Xth seems to be unified is, honestly, a lack of material about them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320046-the-most-like-minded-legion/#findComment-4331918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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