Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 So having a conversation with a friend, this picture by Forgeworld came up: Some things I noticed that were awesome: his shield, his pose, and his short hair. Now, I know it is a stylized painting on a land raider, but it is still an in universe painting of Sanguinius. So the question is, "why would you purposefully change the length of his hair in a painting like this." Here is what I hope! I hope they pose him just like that, give him short hair, and give him a shield. Also, I think this is the best "artwork" he has had yet. What do you think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Not liking it, really. I'm ususally a sucker for artwork of primarchs, but in that picture he looks like a roman warrior, which isn't quite the image that's been painted of Sanguinius since, well, the beginning really. Why would he need a shield, though? Nothing in what we know about his progress as a primarch would suggest that his fighting style includes a shield, do we?(please help me out here if I'm wrong). Paint him blue and you're good to go. Basically he's a personified Ultra Marine minus the wings in that image. Not exactly angelic. Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 but in that picture he looks like a roman warrior not really ^^ that fits it more imho, and its Sparta, not Rome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 It's not Sanguinius IMO. It's just an angelic warrior. A bloody one. A blood angel, if you will ;) If you look as well it seems like its wearing a death mask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I dont think thats Sanguinius. I think he is supposed to represent the anthropomorphized wrath of the Blood Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Not liking it, really. I'm ususally a sucker for artwork of primarchs, but in that picture he looks like a roman warrior, which isn't quite the image that's been painted of Sanguinius since, well, the beginning really. Why would he need a shield, though? Nothing in what we know about his progress as a primarch would suggest that his fighting style includes a shield, do we?(please help me out here if I'm wrong). Paint him blue and you're good to go. Basically he's a personified Ultra Marine minus the wings in that image. Not exactly angelic. Snorri He looks just like historic depictions of Angels... Just google St. Michael and Archangel Michael. I don't know guys. Look at the depictions of him on their chapter banners, look at him in the original art of him (the oooold stuff), and look at how Angels looked in paintings. They all match up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Proof that this painting represents Sanguinius? - None. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnorriSnorrison Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Not liking it, really. I'm ususally a sucker for artwork of primarchs, but in that picture he looks like a roman warrior, which isn't quite the image that's been painted of Sanguinius since, well, the beginning really. Why would he need a shield, though? Nothing in what we know about his progress as a primarch would suggest that his fighting style includes a shield, do we?(please help me out here if I'm wrong). Paint him blue and you're good to go. Basically he's a personified Ultra Marine minus the wings in that image. Not exactly angelic. Snorri He looks just like historic depictions of Angels... Just google St. Michael and Archangel Michael. I'm not exactly a fan of historic paintings of angels, but that's another topic. Sanguinius is a man-angel being, heavy influenced by renaissance depictions of angels and such beings. He's not supposed to look like depictions of winged men in the sistine chapel or wherever you might paint something like that on your wall/ceiling. It's a science-fiction character. Give some room for deviation from the "original" look :) Snorri Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/pompeyladbfp/P9290002.jpg http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/b/be/BA_Chapter_Banner_1.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20120503190528 Both of those are chapter banners depicting Sanguinius. The second one is the newest one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Proof that this painting represents Sanguinius? - None. Well to be fair .... "... blabla ... artisan chapter serfs ..... sole task is to render glory to the BA Primarch, the Angel Sanguinius." FW, HH book VI, Retribution, page 100 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Also, I'm not saying the armor is going to be the same, I just prefer the short hair, like the shield, and like the pose. Like I said, it is obviously stylized. But I like the general concept behind it. As to the shield thing, he wasn't exactly depicted with a spear before, but they still threw that in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Look...there is NO bloody way that FW is going to make a Sanguinius with short hair. He IS the hair. Edit: The only thing that worries me is that FW is going to give him long Bride of Frankenstein hair as they did to Fulgrim and Corax. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Short hair just looks so much better on the models, though. And it fits the banners better. And it makes more sense in combat. And it's just better looking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I expect him with long hair but would also love him with short hair. Agreed that the pose is great but no need for the shield, in fact i would rather a gun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Long hair or its not Sanguinius :( Match Visions of Heresy yo! He has Thor hair! And the Lion has messy Thor hair! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Dude, vision of heresy Sanguinius was ugly as heck. He was HORRIBLE. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPO Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sanguinius lived for centuries, it's not beyond the realms of possibility he had a hair cut at some point. More to the point, his artistic character was matched only by Fulgrim, so it's a fair bet his style changed pretty often. As for the weapons, he's a Primarch. The Primarchs we've met in the books are established as having mastered any number of fighting styles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine7312000 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Long hair for Sanguinius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Sanguinius lived for centuries, it's not beyond the realms of possibility he had a hair cut at some point. More to the point, his artistic character was matched only by Fulgrim, so it's a fair bet his style changed pretty often. As for the weapons, he's a Primarch. The Primarchs we've met in the books are established as having mastered any number of fighting styles. I agree. This sounds quite a fair and reasoned approach to the matter. Personally, I quite like his 'classical' depiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Dude, vision of heresy Sanguinius was ugly as heck. He was HORRIBLE. Love the cover picture of him holding the keeper of secrets head! Iconic Big S for me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Dude, vision of heresy Sanguinius was ugly as heck. He was HORRIBLE.Love the cover picture of him holding the keeper of secrets head! Iconic Big S for me! I like everything but his face. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 What sorta stat line will they give Sanguinius? He should be right up there with Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akylas Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'm not 100% sure what I'd like to see in terms of the model, but that is really cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-soul Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It's not Sanguinius - first and the most- he never wears the mask, and more to that - other warriors wear mask of sanguinius to represent him. Like The Sanguinor the exemplar of host and his heralds - there is a short story about choosing the very first Sanguinor from Sanguinary guard members- and the part of it - wearing mask of the host which melts into face. Second - brown wings - it was stated alot that his wing are pure white - colouring wings into brown is something beyond Sanguinius. And third - shield? Sanguinius with shield? His shield is precognition - forseeing future is the best shield. And best defence - avoiding enemy strikes and any harm at all. So there is additional info about that artworks - it's done to represent civilians of conquered world the might of their father, his glory and blah-blah - so it don't have to be the exact depiction of primarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 How do you know he doesn't wear a mask? And as I've shown with two other official in universe depictions, it isn't the only piece of art that depicts him that ways (short hair). But if we want to get into, "well he wasn't depicted in the books" let us not forget he had black hair in a couple of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320222-sanguinius-depiction-by-fw/#findComment-4332575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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