Ursa Doom Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I have a copy of the book from the Weekender. Nothing from Book Vi is in here; so none of the new Rites of War, nor the new special characters. The only things that are in here are any updated to Legion rules or units, adding the Iron Circle to the Iron Warriors section, and the addition of the Ultramarines to the book.I don't get why they added the iron circle in but nothing else from book 6, that seems an odd decision.I suppose they want to give people an incentive to buy Retribution or the rules weren't finished when they sent the red book to the printer. But then why put the Iron Circle in there? Maybe it was supposed to be in a previous book before that, but they hadn't had time to playtest it? It could also simply have been something they overlooked in proofreading, forgot to remove and the red books was sent off to the printer before the Retribution book. I suppose someone could just fire off an email and ask them what's going on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4333141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have a copy of the book from the Weekender. Nothing from Book Vi is in here; so none of the new Rites of War, nor the new special characters. The only things that are in here are any updated to Legion rules or units, adding the Iron Circle to the Iron Warriors section, and the addition of the Ultramarines to the book.I don't get why they added the iron circle in but nothing else from book 6, that seems an odd decision.I suppose they want to give people an incentive to buy Retribution or the rules weren't finished when they sent the red book to the printer. To make the inevitable Horus Heresy Legions book more attractive to those who aren't BA/DA/WS/TS/SW? :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4333687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Doom Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 That seems likely, but only because I'm cynical about a lot of business decisions that GW makes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4333696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I can't see how this is a good buy for those of us that have the red books. All of the rule changes are already well documented online and I feel a PDF update would have been nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I am still waiting for the time when every legion gets covered and then perhaps i might just go for one of these. The numbered volume books, although go out of date rules-wise can be a great piece for collection cause they contain tons of great artwork, and although I am 31 years old at the time of this comment, I still love pictures in my books! with the red ones, once they get updated the previous ones literally lose their value, hence why im holding myself back on them until they cover everything. Just happy to see them constantly putting an effor into making new things. Thanks for the post! You're right. I do have the CAL and now outdated Istvaan Legion books, but they are bound in black, so it doesn't count. I will probably skip on this book since there isn't much new info here, and it's all readily available online. Considering all of the changes can be summarized in a single page, I wish they had just released a FAQ PDF. Since it does not include White Scars, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Thousand Sons, or Space Wolves, nor the new characters or unique Legion Rites, I think yet another reprinting that finally consolidates all of the unique Legion rules into one book is inevitable. Hell, it may even be part of a collector's bundle that also has an updated Crusade Army List that adds all of the stuff from books 4+ and the new generic rites. Oh i misunderstood when i read 'nothing from book 6 is in here'....so the new traits are but the new RoW for those legions is not? So the WE section doesnt have crimson path for example even though it has the updated violence incarnate, is that accurate? Nothing from book 6 is in there, period. Book 6 does not have updated rules for the various Legion traits, Book 6 has new characters and the new generic and legion-specific Rites of War. This red book combines and updates all of the Legion-specific information from books 1 through 5, that's it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 · Hidden by Slips, March 13, 2016 - No reason given Hidden by Slips, March 13, 2016 - No reason given double post Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334070
grand_master85 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 I will say, the Iron Circle aren't actually in book VI, so that's a small incentive for us Iron Warriors players out there to get the updated book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Oh I seeee, I thought the Iron Circle were in book 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Are there a lot of changes for the World Earters since the original books came out. I have the black ones that came with the LE version of Book 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320237-forgeworld-new-releases-11316-new-red-book/page/2/#findComment-4334350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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