b1soul Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Where do the IF get their Teutonic influences. Where's the space Inuit influence? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calas Typhon Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I was under the impression the stoic and stony nature was brought in through the Inwit influence and Rogal Dorn. If Rogal's actions on joining the Legion are anything to go by anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4337078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I recall reading in the HH book they featured in, that there was no real culture outstanding. Be it Terran or Inwi...tian they were viewed as a single wall, and anything that marked anyone as different was a crack. They pretty much had a mono-dominant culture like the Salamanders. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4337105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzender Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Sorry for the light offtopic, but there's something I'm not sure about: after finding Dorn in Inwit, did the Fists keep Terra as one of their main recruiting sources? As I understood, most legions started recruiting mainly from their Primarch homeworld as they were discovered (except Angron and Alpharius, though the latter cannot be confirmed ), or from some of their conquered planets. Were the Fists the exception, and therefore had the highest proportion of Terran-born marines? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4337115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 All the Legions kept Terra as "a" recruiting source with them then having a variety of "liege worlds" which supplied recruits that acted as secondary sources. When the Primarch was found, his homeworld(except in specific cases) became the primary source. Most likely what ended up happening is that the homeworld was forced to bear the lion's share of drawing recruits while the liege worlds and Terra were put on a "closest to frontline" basis. This would explain why typically the Legions become polarized as "Terrans and Homeworlders" even though each Legion had at least three worlds to recruit from.* Â *IIRC, the Salamanders had the smallest number of worlds with only Terra, Nocturne and one liege world. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4337127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 My very personnal opinion on the matter about the IF influences wont be popular around here but I want to share either way. This is my personnal view on influences and I dont believe it was purposely made by FW team. I compare the pre heresy IF in some aspects to the Age of Discovery Portuguese Empire. This is just some basic aspects that I xan expand later on if someone is interested. IF siege mastery, they were very good at fortifying places and defending them. The PE (Portuguese Empire) built more than 600 fortresses around the world, and had its lion share of sieges. IF void warfare. Very good at boarding action and void ship battle. This one speaks for itself, seen the PE had a mainly a oceanic empire and just fortresses and trade posts built in land. IF Templar order. The PE was financed and lead by the Knights of Cristh, the sucessors of the Templar order. And a funny one, ( my personnal favourite) Siggy black sword. Sailors of the PE had Carracks Black Swords. Google them, they have a nice story. :) Again this is my personnal and biased view. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4337156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergrmir Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Huh, I actually really like that take. I mean, the Prussian thing is fine, but it's pretty much just applying a cartoon version of Prussian aesthetics - they have some German names and some black and white. This idea of the PE is pretty neat - and the hundreds of small forts and holdings thing is a good characterful comparison. Â I'm not sure the Inwit/Inuit connection is any stronger than "ice plus a word that's similar" but I'd be interested in reading any deeper takes on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 My very personnal opinion on the matter about the IF influences wont be popular around here but I want to share either way. This is my personnal view on influences and I dont believe it was purposely made by FW team. I compare the pre heresy IF in some aspects to the Age of Discovery Portuguese Empire. This is just some basic aspects that I xan expand later on if someone is interested. IF siege mastery, they were very good at fortifying places and defending them. The PE (Portuguese Empire) built more than 600 fortresses around the world, and had its lion share of sieges. IF void warfare. Very good at boarding action and void ship battle. This one speaks for itself, seen the PE had a mainly a oceanic empire and just fortresses and trade posts built in land. IF Templar order. The PE was financed and lead by the Knights of Cristh, the sucessors of the Templar order. And a funny one, ( my personnal favourite) Siggy black sword. Sailors of the PE had Carracks Black Swords. Google them, they have a nice story. Again this is my personnal and biased view. As a Brazillian, I gotta say, I liked this comparison. Which could also tie to why the Crimson Fists have names like Pedro Cantor (which means Peter Singer in portuguese). A few more: First of all, Portugal and Spain were and still are VERY Catholic, so the whole idea of religious fanatics coming from them (BT) would not be out of question. The BT cross is called Cruz de Malta in here, we have a football team called Vasco that use it as their shield, and it is tied to Vasco da Gama that was a navigator in Portugal. So you know, the Templar Cross traveling the seas/void to conquer new lands/planets is VERY BT. Even more insteresting is the whole idea behind how Rogal Dorn "died". Instead of a confirmed kill, he disappeared in a war. Portugal had a ruler called Sebastião (that funnily enough in Portuguese, Bastião means Bastion, or fortfication) that disappeared in a war and we(both Portuguese and Brazillians) have a whole religon involving him called 'Sebastianismo' or "Sebastianism", and basically is him coming back to lead the portuguse people once more. The fact the Imperial Fists are so diverse, in the sense they don't have a single culture composing them is quite close to how Portugal and Brazil developed. Portugal was dominated by the Moors for sometime, and they had French invaders there too. Brazil is massive and we have at least five different cultures in here. In fact, both Portugal and Brazil had an Emperor, so you know, IMPERIAL Fists would not be out of question. I REALLY liked this comparison. Now I want to build an IF army because of it. Ran Edit: Minor corrections. Vasco da Gama was a navigator that discovered an Indian route. (I mistook him for Vaz de Caminha which is a quite gross error. Jesus.) Another thing, this is the Vasco shield: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Pheidias Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It's called the Maltese cross almost everywhere Quite fond of the portugese analogy, really Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainblow Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Frankly I've never looked at the portugese analogy either, but it is a refreshing take on the IF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I find it really quite odd that Inwit's influence was buried so deep by GW. Considering that they were a small stellar Empire before their reunion with the Imperium, it's odd that the culture as a whole apparently dissolves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It's insinuated Dorn purposefully engineered the lack or cultural influences. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320404-inwit-cultureis-it-present-in-the-if/#findComment-4340814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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