captainblow Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 It's fine to combined pledge diffrent 30k factions right? (Say mechanicum and word bearers) Got a ton of resin, just need to figure out what to build before hand, or even if I dare venture into titan country. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjasuperspy Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Oh gosh when is this starting? Geez I need to get my stuff together and actually PARTICIPATE this time. I think I missed my pledge last year... So much stuff on my bench and I've almost worked out what I want to do with my base Alpha Legion armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Oh gosh when is this starting? Geez I need to get my stuff together and actually PARTICIPATE this time. I think I missed my pledge last year... So much stuff on my bench and I've almost worked out what I want to do with my base Alpha Legion armor. 1st of May iirc from last year. Gates are open for everyone for one month. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 The dates are not set yet. But traditionally it's either May 1st or May 15th... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Guys on the skitarii you can use them as Imperial militia they have provinces that make skitarii type troops if you really want to pledge them, I'd ask semper first but the providences are there if you look for them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 For ETL purposes, the HH faction can only use existing FW lists. These include apart from the Legions, any Mechanicum units that may be included (not only Tagmata) as well as Solar Auxilia or Renegades or whatever. They cannot use 40k Codices. On the other hand, AdMech forum of the IFOR faction can use any Mechanicum unit from GW and FW including HH. This is admittedly an irregularity and has to do with the fact that the AdMech forum was for years the only place to discuss anything Mechanicum accross all eras/settings. It still is that place although now one can discuss 30k Mechanicum in the AoD forum as well. So tradition prevails.... Frankly, in real terms, this is not so much a problem as with the "Relic" rule a great deal of 30k stuff can now be used by 40k armies anyway. Skitarii & Cult Mechanicus are 40K... at least until FW gives us something in 30K for them. The dates are not set yet. But traditionally it's either May 1st or May 15th... May 1st to July 31st = 92 days May 15th to August 15th = 93 days -- ooh, pick this one. we get an extra day! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes I know but if you use cyber augmented in the militia list you can proxy skitarii as your militia as thats the whole point of the lists, they also count as sworn Brethren to Mechanicum. If and that's IF you wish to do them as militia I don't see the problem as the entries cover everything from grenadiers using plasma melta etc to recons having sniper rifles. Things such as dune crawlers probably won't have an entry they can fulfill but straight skitarii should be fine within the etl counts as proxy rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Yes I know but if you use cyber augmented in the militia list you can proxy skitarii as your militia as thats the whole point of the lists, they also count as sworn Brethren to Mechanicum. If and that's IF you wish to do them as militia I don't see the problem as the entries cover everything from grenadiers using plasma melta etc to recons having sniper rifles. Things such as dune crawlers probably won't have an entry they can fulfill but straight skitarii should be fine within the etl counts as proxy rules. I did not know this. Thank you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 The militia lists can cover anything from beast men to squats to cultists and renegade and heretics, it's the most customized list to suit everyone. So don't feel bad it's not widely used and im trying to get more people to see the benefits Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 If there was a place to source 30K Beastmen, I would be all over that... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Victoria miniatures do abhumans http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/torgos-trench-raiders Use those with the beast men kits for fantasy and you could have some fun.... That will be my next project Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I saw it somewhere on here but I've been really wanting a guard army to go along with my night lords and am planning on getting vostroyanss to represent the imperial army. Are we allowed to do units from multiplie armies? Like have some legion started and then cult and militia? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 For ETL purposes, the HH faction can only use existing FW lists. These include apart from the Legions, any Mechanicum units that may be included (not only Tagmata) as well as Solar Auxilia or Renegades or whatever. They cannot use 40k Codices. On the other hand, AdMech forum of the IFOR faction can use any Mechanicum unit from GW and FW including HH. This is admittedly an irregularity and has to do with the fact that the AdMech forum was for years the only place to discuss anything Mechanicum accross all eras/settings. It still is that place although now one can discuss 30k Mechanicum in the AoD forum as well. So tradition prevails.... Frankly, in real terms, this is not so much a problem as with the "Relic" rule a great deal of 30k stuff can now be used by 40k armies anyway. Skitarii & Cult Mechanicus are 40K... at least until FW gives us something in 30K for them. The dates are not set yet. But traditionally it's either May 1st or May 15th... May 1st to July 31st = 92 days May 15th to August 15th = 93 days -- ooh, pick this one. we get an extra day! :D Just FYI, the slot is May 1st- August 1st. ;) Not saying that that's the dates for this year, but if the start date settles at May 1st, the end date would be Aug 1st (like last year). The Inner Circle thinks of everything... :D The militia lists can cover anything from beast men to squats to cultists and renegade and heretics, it's the most customized list to suit everyone. So don't feel bad it's not widely used and im trying to get more people to see the benefits Yeah well, like I said in a similar thread in the Chaos area, the "count-as" is open to... overuse. If you plan to build a Skitarii army then you should join the AdMech forum of the IFOR faction. On the other hand if you were to make a HH Militia using Skitarii models (because that was your project all along) then of course that's fine. The ETL is about hard choices (among other things), just be true to yourself. If you want to support a faction, but your current project is of another faction, well, that's the tough choice I was talking about. The spirit of the ETL is that you should be supporting the faction for which you build the minis for - only you can be the judge of that. "Count-as" can become too elastic to justify about everything, so just be true to yourself and make a hard choice. I saw it somewhere on here but I've been really wanting a guard army to go along with my night lords and am planning on getting vostroyanss to represent the imperial army. Are we allowed to do units from multiplie armies? Like have some legion started and then cult and militia? Yes. :) HH is one Faction in the ETL so if a unit is contained in the FW books lists (black or red) then it's a legit choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I saw it somewhere on here but I've been really wanting a guard army to go along with my night lords and am planning on getting vostroyanss to represent the imperial army. Are we allowed to do units from multiplie armies? Like have some legion started and then cult and militia? For ETL? Yes. It doesn't have to be a useable army, it simply has to conform to the point system used by the specific subforum's rulebooks. So AoD has access to the entirety of the Black Books, Chaos has access to CSM, Daemons and IA13, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 OOH, well now I gotta come up with a cult milita army that can match my deranged night lords. I'm going to need to watch a lot of mad max to get inspiration! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4347964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saa Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I really stoked about being able to enter this year, finally having the motivation to actually paint a chunky part of my Word Bearer resin, though I have a question. I have a Mhara Gal that I primed and then started the first stages of the metallic red airbrush on, is it acceptable to pledge him as he is or would it be excluded as he does actually have a base airbrush on him? Cheers Saa....... ........or something like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4348059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hmmm once again I'd refer to last year's etl for all you q&a that's not to say that this year could have a rules shift but just to be safe I'd have him presented on a new base. But that's just my opinion. Now boys and girls uncle Kurama just realized that were only a couple of days out from April. Which means Captain semper going to be busy checking his lists and checking them twice as ETL V is going to be interesting as it could be Chaos winning thrice! So gather your brushes put away your dice as the month of May is coming and this year we will all be nice, whether chaos, or wolf, angel or knight were all here to pledge and put up a fight. For when else do we have time to paint other than etl and it's secured date. So prepare yourselves and don't procrastinate. So gather your plastic your resin your glue and thank uncle Olis and Kurama for telling you what to do Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4348445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatOneMarshal Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 10 old metal raptors incoming! If I can do enough conversion work I can also get 5 more raptors too! Gotta show that Flesh is better over Steel! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4348719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Well guys here's another reason to be motivated!!! So etl is coming so I thought I'd build something different this year, now tge catch is I don't care what you choose, pick a legion and a name for this guy and he will be painted for etl and sent to whoever out of the the chosen Legion votes completes the highest points in etl. so if you say pick Ultramarines and paint 300 points and Ultramarines gets the most votes you along with everyone who voted could win this Kurama original! Who said we couldn't be bribed? http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_162512_zpspjhd8fv2.jpg http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_162523_zpsrnafgssa.jpg http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_162531_zpswaclvbgr.jpg http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_162558_zpsu2llphbk.jpg Now he's still WIP but I'll finish him this weekend edit: you are only eligible if your vowing for the AoD forum So if your keen throw a vote over in the other thread and let's get this etl going! http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320930-choose-a-legion-for-this-mini/?p=4349684 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_192223_zpsdojes5fs.jpg As etl approaches the Armoured formation increases Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y524/Taron_James_Beer/Mobile%20Uploads/20160330_192223_zpsdojes5fs.jpg As etl approaches the Armoured formation increases Great start buddy. Add some cool chaos bitz and you are ready for the ETL ;) :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 A month to decide on my pledge. Oh my oh my, what to choose? A new army, or add to an existing army? Do I splooge on an entire Mechanicum army and go for that? Or do I go for bulkig up on dedicated transports for existing things? Or do I add some extra choppy to my Auxilia? Oh the choices..so many choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aias Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Still got several units left to paint out of my current batch of Alpha Legion, including some stolen Firedrakes and a tank squadron (still need to build the last one). Should be able to get in here just fine :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shard of Magnus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Do I splooge on an entire Mechanicum army and go for that? Or do I go for bulkig up on dedicated transports for existing things? Or do I add some extra choppy to my Auxilia? Why is this an 'or' decision? !?!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 A month to decide on my pledge. Oh my oh my, what to choose? A new army, or add to an existing army? Do I splooge on an entire Mechanicum army and go for that? Or do I go for bulkig up on dedicated transports for existing things? Or do I add some extra choppy to my Auxilia? Oh the choices..so many choices. If you can't decide, you could also do some cool Chaos Daemons :P ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320553-etl-v-motivation-and-preparation-aod-unite/page/11/#findComment-4349984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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