BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 +++ Imperial Fists (1495) +++ ++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (1495) ++ + HQ (345) + Legion Centurion (115) Cataphractii Terminator Armour - Chainfist - Teleportation Transponder - Vigil Pattern Storm Shield Sigismund (230) Master of the Legion - Warlord Iron Halo - The Black Sword: + Troops (515) + Templar Brethren (515) 4x Templar Brethren - 4x Combat Shield Chapter Champion - Combat Shield -Master-Crafted Solarite Power Gauntlet Land Raider Phobos - Armoured Ceramite - Auxiliary Drive - Dozer Blade - Extra Armour + Elites (270) + Legion Terminator Squad (270) 4x Legion Terminator - Cataphractii Terminator Armour - 2x Chainfist - Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon - Pair of Lightning Claws - Power Fist - 2x Vigil Pattern Storm Shield Legion Terminator Sergeant - Chainfist - Vigil Pattern Storm Shield + Heavy Support (365) + Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (365) Armoured Ceramite - Leviathan Storm Cannon Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 If you could remove the Unit Profiles and/or Special Rules that'd be cool!^_^ Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4342639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Done. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4342702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks! Now, As to the list itself, If you're able to and can find the points for the increase, swapping the Terminator Armor to Tartaros would be much more beneficial since you'd still have a 3++ but be able to Run and Sweep and any Ranged Weapons in the squad, be able to fire Overwatch though they'd have a 5++ due to not having a shield. The Terminator Squad also seems to lack focus, trying to cover as many bases as possible while being unable to actually do those jobs effectively due to low numbers. For Example: You have 1 Power Fist 3 Chain Fists 3 Storm Shields 1 Assault Cannon Pair of Lightning Claws. That many Chain Fists serves no real purpose besides points bloat. At most, take 2 per 5 as a redundancy. Your only gun is the Assault Cannon which is only 4 shots. Might as well just give the guy a Storm Shield since his shooting is likely to be inconsequential vs their target of choice due to lack of volume. Finally, the Lightning Claws will only ever be useful against 3+ Saves because otherwise, vs Terminators, they get a 2+ Save. Problem is, the rest of the Squad has Unwieldy S8 Weapons which, alongside their Storm Shields, makes them more of a TEQ Hunting Unit than anything else. For the cost of Dual Claws, take another fist and Shield. Problem is, in their Current Set up, they'll be footslogging it since they would need a Transponder for them to deepstrike since the Deep Strike from it isnt a conferred benefit. Meaning any HQ or Termy Unit needs to independently buy the upgrade. And if you want to butcher 3+ Saves, you have Templar for the Job anyways who are, with Shields, 2+/5++ (TEQ) in CC with Power Swords, Furious Charge and, thanks to Sigismund, I5 on the Charge with 4 Attacks Each on said Charge. However, that does come with an increase in cost. To mitigate it, you could drop the Centurion since he doesn't really do anything for the list besides being WS/BS5 2W Terminator. Unless you give him a Specialization like Primus Medicae, Forge Lord, Librarian or other, you're better off getting more Terminators into the squad for an equivalent cost. The main Draw for a Centurion is as a Cheap Compulsory HQ that is only there to fill the slot. Problem is, you have Sigismund so he serves no real purpose. You also still need a 2nd Troops Choice since you're using the standard AoD FoC. If you want 1 Troop Compulsory and aren't running a RoW, look into the Onslaught FoC which is 1 Troop and 1 Heavy Support as compulsory which are both slots you have filled. For the Templar, drop Extra Armor from the Land Raider. It doesnt really do anything for them or the survival of the vehicle. For the Leviathan, a Grav Bombard and Phosphex will deal much more damage than the Storm Cannon and Armored Ceramite isn't an absolute necessity at this points level. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4342713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Thanks for the comments ! Some notes - the Centurion has a teleport transponder and joins the termies so they can deep strike. I was planning to run this as PotL but the Onslaught FOC could work. I opted for the storm cannon to add some range and keep the list a bit more friendly. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4342958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Some notes - the Centurion has a teleport transponder and joins the termies so they can deep strike. Doesn't work that way. Both the character as well as the unit need to purchase the transponder individually. Deep Strike USR is not conferred from one unit to another if they team up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4342995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Okay thanks I have some spare points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4343138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Well, a couple of things stand out to me. Firstly, upgrading the Chapter Champion's Solarite Power Gauntlet to be master-crafted is redundant, as it already has it has default on its profile. Secondly, you won't be able to use Pride of the Legion with this list, as it forces you to take Veteran or Terminator squads as both your compulsory Troops, meaning you would need another unit, so you'll want to use the Onslaught FoC. Slipstreams has some great critiques, though, and taking all of that into account gives you a list something like this: +++ Black Orange's Templar Funtime(1500pts) +++++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Onslaught) (1500pts) +++ HQ (230pts) +Sigismund (230pts) [Master of the Legion]+ Troops (490pts) +Templar Brethren (490pts) [4x Combat Shield (20pts), 4x Templar Brethren (100pts)]····Chapter Champion (15pts) [Combat Shield (5pts), Solarite Power Gauntlet (10pts)]····Land Raider Phobos (280pts) [Armoured Ceramite (20pts), Auxiliary Drive (10pts)]+ Elites (415pts) +Legion Terminator Squad (415pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist (20pts), 8x Legion Terminators (240pts), 6x Power Fist (30pts), Teleportation Transponder (15pts), 4x Vigil Pattern Storm Shield (40pts)]····Legion Terminator Sergeant (15pts) [Power Fist (5pts), Vigil Pattern Storm Shield (10pts)]+ Heavy Support (365pts) +Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon (365pts)····Leviathan Siege Dreadnought (365pts) [Armoured Ceramite (20pts), Legion Dreadnought Drop Pod (65pts), Leviathan Storm Cannon (10pts)]+ Legion +Legion Astartes [Loyalist, VII: Imperial Fists] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4343170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 I really like the bigger T squad and that is where I'm headed actually... Just want to build some other units first. I do think a dozer blade and extra armor are mandatory for the land raider. So this is a sub core for me and I am thinking it's got some potential. Thanks everybody for your help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4343667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 So I've got a couple games scheduled for tomorrow. Batreps incoming ! I've also added a small allied militia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4345701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Report back asap Legionnaire! Do Dorn Proud! Or I might airlock you from the Phalanx. What? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4345704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Lol... I should have something up by this Sunday... Then it's off to Chicago for Adepticon. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4345757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Here's some pix... https://www.facebook.com/Terminus6Est/?ref=bookmarks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4346123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 Batrep versus Yellow Moons will be up tomorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4346986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 27, 2016 Author Share Posted March 27, 2016 Full length written battle report - 30k Templars vs. Orks !!! http://greenblowfly.blogspot.com/2016/03/horus-heresy-full-batrep-better-late.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320663-1500-point-imperial-fists-%E2%80%94-templar-theme/#findComment-4347701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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