Cthonian Language and accent

[Ion]

So I've recently been playing around with the idea of doing sound clips for various things related to my SoH army and I have been stuck on coming up with something for a Cthonian accent. I also wanted to try and intersperse some words that might originate from that planet.

 

Problem is, I can't find something that works well, nor can I find the references to what it sounds like in my copies of the HH books. Not to mention any game where Abbadon has vocalised lines he's all chaos-y which doesn't really help.

 

What sort of accent do you think Cthonians might have? What sort of language would they be speaking?

[Marshal Rohr]

I've always like the idea of Horus sounding like Benebatch Smaug. The educated, otherworldly bass tone sounded cool for a Demi-god.

 

For average Cthonians an American accent seems appropriate, since the planet is an amalgamation of cultures brought off world as slaves to work the mines.

 

Edit: I know it's a British game, and fantasy's motherland is England, but does anyone else think it's weird their aren't any American accents in most popular scifi and fantansy? Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, etc. No Americans. I wanna hear some space marine good old boys before I die. And not somewhere you'd think either. Like the Macraggian accent is redneck English. :D

[Marshal Loss]

In Horus Rising, it mentions that Horus speaks Cthonic with an accent derived from a particular clan, and that the gangs/clans themselves have varying levels of sophistication.

 

 

 

In fact, he spoke it with the particular hard palatal edge and rough vowels of a Western Hemispheric ganger, the commonest and roughest of Cthonia’s feral castes.

[Ion]

I've always like the idea of Horus sounding like Benebatch Smaug. The educated, otherworldly bass tone sounded cool for a Demi-god.

For average Cthonians an American accent seems appropriate, since the planet is an amalgamation of cultures brought off world as slaves to work the mines.

Edit: I know it's a British game, and fantasy's motherland is England, but does anyone else think it's weird their aren't any American accents in most popular scifi and fantansy? Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, etc. No Americans. I wanna hear some space marine good old boys before I die. And not somewhere you'd think either. Like the Macraggian accent is redneck English.

I can see the different gangs displaying the sort of accent variety of the US, but I don't feel they'd sound much like Americans beyond that, from what I can tell the Cthonian language is a lot harsher than English.

Also, The Dwarves in Dragon Age have an American accent.

In Horus Rising, it mentions that Horus speaks Cthonic with an accent derived from a particular clan, and that the gangs/clans themselves have varying levels of sophistication.

In fact, he spoke it with the particular hard palatal edge and rough vowels of a Western Hemispheric ganger, the commonest and roughest of Cthonia’s feral castes.

Hmm, hard palatal sounds gives me something to work with. That's one of the quotes I was thinking of though, thank you ^^

[depthcharge12]

I imagine it to be a barking, guttural language like German (not because they're always portrayed as bad guys :P) or a rough American western voice that sounds like it's always sizing you up.

 

Nostraman I've always imagined to be like parsel tongue from Harry Potter - a slithering sound. Cthonia has been described as a nest of vipers, but I always imagined them having a more Germanic, barbaric tone.

 

Listen to Du Hast by Rammstein...that's how I imagine them :D

[Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra]

I imagine it to be a barking, guttural language like German (not because they're always portrayed as bad guys ) or a rough American western voice that sounds like it's always sizing you up.

Nostraman I've always imagined to be like parsel tongue from Harry Potter - a slithering sound. Cthonia has been described as a nest of vipers, but I always imagined them having a more Germanic, barbaric tone.

Listen to Du Hast by Rammstein...that's how I imagine them

All vee need to remember is zat zere are no gods out zere, in ze darkness, no great daemons and ministers ov evil. Zere iz no fundamental, immutable evil in ze cosmos. It iz too large and sterile for such melodrama. Zere are simply inhuman things zat oppose us, zinks vee vere created to battle and destroy. -Horus, on Sixty-Three Nineteen

[Frater Cornelius]

I imagine it to be a barking, guttural language like German (not because they're always portrayed as bad guys :P) or a rough American western voice that sounds like it's always sizing you up.

 

Nostraman I've always imagined to be like parsel tongue from Harry Potter - a slithering sound. Cthonia has been described as a nest of vipers, but I always imagined them having a more Germanic, barbaric tone.

 

Listen to Du Hast by Rammstein...that's how I imagine them :D

Rammstein is probably the worst example of how an average German talks. The way he accentuates his phrases or pronounces the "r" is so over the top that it is more like a parody.

 

Having said that, hearing Horus speak like the Rammstein guy sings would be a blast :D

 

Next up, Rogal Dorn with an over the top Nazi accent as depicted by American cinema :teehee:

[Reyner]

Sons of Horus are evil swines so in my mind they must have Lancashire accents :P 

 

But in seriousness I am down with Horus sounding like Till Lindemann - Rammstein FTW.

[NoLats_McGee]

Hard, palatal 'rough' accent just makes me think Australian.

 

Combine that with their Mad Max vibe, and...

[Ion]

... Australian Cthonians? Crikey.

 

But which Australian accent? I can't really see Horus using a Steve Irwin, and most of the city accents are too soft for it.

 

Although it'd be kinda hilarious...

 

"This here's a megarachnid, one of the most deadly creatures in the galaxy. It has four razor sharp sword-limbs that can slice an astartes apart in less than a second. I'mma go wrestle it"

[GhostMalone]

Well if it was aussie I'd say it's more south Australian I'm Victorian but south Australians whilst guttural actually pronounce with a more accurate sounding vocabulary, it's still rough but isn't that bull:cuss over the top occa aussie pronunciation.

 

In fact how Australians are portrayed even by ww40k and the like aren't consistent with the main accent.

[Teetengee]

How much do we know about the other languages spoken in the 40k universes?

To be honest, you can probably get away with whatever you think sounds cool, although I tend to agree that it should probably sound at least a little harsh to you.

[Atia]

Talon of Horus has some Cthonian words in it

I'm using a variant of Tamil for my SoH Cthonian language - it fits very well imo.

[NoLats_McGee]

Well if it was aussie I'd say it's more south Australian I'm Victorian but south Australians whilst guttural actually pronounce with a more accurate sounding vocabulary, it's still rough but isn't that bull:cuss over the top occa aussie pronunciation.

 

In fact how Australians are portrayed even by ww40k and the like aren't consistent with the main accent.

I'd say South Australian too, it's that middle-ground between the more exaggerated Occa accents and the softer city ones.

 

Horus Lupercal: Fightin' around the Galaxy.

[norngahl]

I always imagined cthonian like a harsh an cold language like the wikings from norway spoke.

 

Listen to Khold a norwegian black metal band. Thats how I imagine them to talk. German might be a bit to smooth and noble for the SoH, the IF are way more fitting.

 

English, either american or british, is way to poppy floppy smoothy nice to be a hard language. I hope no marine talks english. Imagine marines talking chinese, even worse O.o

[Atia]

An example for Cthonian language from Talon of Horus:

 

"Duraga kal Esmejhak"

[Marshal Rohr]

An example for Cthonian language from Talon of Horus:

 

"Duraga kal Esmejhak"

Just the letters doesn't help us though. If I transliterated so Arabic word as an example you'd not know how to say them without actually knowing what I'm trying to say from the context of the sentence.

[b1soul]

Cthonians who sound Aussie...yeah, no thanks

[Kelborn]

Hm...Cthonians are mostly gangers, right?

How about south African accent like these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLyhb5iG-5g (Die Antwoord for example )

"Yea, freeky Imperar! Chekk ou' ma new gunny guns!"

"Horus...are you allright?"

*Horus shoots Big E down*

"Whus da boss of da galaksie naow, huh?"

*reloads*

[Calas Typhon]

Australian Cthonian would sound horrendous, South African the same.

 

They are referenced as being quite thick set, from the characters we have seen, even for astartes, this leads me to believe that they would have a very deep and vicious accent or something similar to Khârn from the Betrayer Audiobook or in Chosen of Khorne, a Russian - Germanic sort of barking language.

 

The World Eaters like Kargos in Betrayer were exactly how I imagined the Cthonians of the Sons of Horus. It was like they were ripping the accent out of my head

[Machine God]

Glaswegian Astartes!

[Calas Typhon]

I always imagined cthonian like a harsh an cold language like the wikings from norway spoke.

 

Listen to Khold a norwegian black metal band. Thats how I imagine them to talk. German might be a bit to smooth and noble for the SoH, the IF are way more fitting.

 

English, either american or british, is way to poppy floppy smoothy nice to be a hard language. I hope no marine talks english. Imagine marines talking chinese, even worse O.o

 

The English accents, specifically more London/Essex make perfect for Iron Hands, most accents can be quite hard if the speaker has the vocal ranges of an Astartes.

 

Check up the accent of Galba in Damnation of Pythos, but more specifically Veritas Ferrum. He is a brilliant example of how well the accent works with deeper ranges.

[Marshal Rohr]

German gets a bad rap for words like fleugzug or whatever airplane is, but there's an awful lot of elided s's and sh sounds to be a completely glottal language. I don't think there are going to be any languages living that can sound like Cthonian is described. To use duraga kal eshmejek as an example I can seen at least three ways to province it as a phrase and multiple ways to pronounce each word. Unless ADB wants to provide the pronunciation he uses there isn't really a way to determine the phonetics of the word.

 

Also, didn't he grow up in Bangladesh? Chances are South East Asian languages play a bigger influence on his language choices and accents than European accents. Nostraman sounds an awful lot like malay, Thai, and hindi when they writing is described.

[Machine God]

 

I always imagined cthonian like a harsh an cold language like the wikings from norway spoke.

 

Listen to Khold a norwegian black metal band. Thats how I imagine them to talk. German might be a bit to smooth and noble for the SoH, the IF are way more fitting.

 

English, either american or british, is way to poppy floppy smoothy nice to be a hard language. I hope no marine talks english. Imagine marines talking chinese, even worse O.o

 

The English accents, specifically more London/Essex make perfect for Iron Hands, most accents can be quite hard if the speaker has the vocal ranges of an Astartes.

@Cthonia - No, no, no! I'm not having my favourite Legion denigrated like that!

 

I'm not having the Xth being thought as talking like a mis-mash of Baz-Vegas Chav's, Mocknies, TOWIE's and Cockney's!

 

Edit: 

 

@Marshal Rohr - I think you will find that ADB is from Ulster not Bangladesh so he's British.

[Calas Typhon]

 

 

I always imagined cthonian like a harsh an cold language like the wikings from norway spoke.

 

Listen to Khold a norwegian black metal band. Thats how I imagine them to talk. German might be a bit to smooth and noble for the SoH, the IF are way more fitting.

 

English, either american or british, is way to poppy floppy smoothy nice to be a hard language. I hope no marine talks english. Imagine marines talking chinese, even worse O.o

 

The English accents, specifically more London/Essex make perfect for Iron Hands, most accents can be quite hard if the speaker has the vocal ranges of an Astartes.

@Cthonia - No, no, no! I'm not having my favourite Legion denigrated like that!

 

I'm not having the Xth being thought as talking like a mis-mash of Baz-Vegas Chav's, Mocknies, TOWIE's and Cockney's!

 

Edit: Missed a letter out.

 

Not really talking that sort of use of the language, leaning more towards the Galba type, as we see in veritas ferrum and DoP.

 

Hell, better than a Brummie or Geordie accent.