Helias_Tancred Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 ... then how would you gear out a command squad/honor guard squad to best support him? One that would help complement his strengths and support his shortcomings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I do run Tycho and he is much better complemented by Sterguard and than Command Squad: Sternguard (5): Plasmagun x2, Combi-Plasma x2, Power Fist If I were to take a Command Squad, however, I would do one of the two: Command Squad (5): Company Champion, Sanguinary Novitiate, 6x Plasma Pistol Command Squad (5): Company Champion, Sanguinary Novitiate, 3x Plasmagun, 3x Storm Shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Yeah I think Sternguard or the second command squad work there. Stand and shoot. Even if he only had an ap3 weapon he'd be fine, no idea why they mauled the Dead Mans hand this codex. He was so cool in the last one :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 The real killer for me is that they took away his special ammo.... EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 So a more "shooty" honor guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 On a darker tone, i choose Death Company Captain Tycho. Complete him with 9 other DC brothers (either with Bolter or Bolt Pistol/Chainsword) and a drop pod or a rhino, and you got a very hard force to deal with. Tycho provide a real advantage to the squad, with his 2+/4++ and fnp 5+.....If your enemy do not have an AP2 weapon when fighting the squad, Tycho can litterally block the fight until you win the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 So a more "shooty" honor guard? Yeah why not. Plasma guns and storm shields perhaps? Or Melta in a drop pod to combine with Tycho. Really it's not too ideal as you have to have the champion too, but at least he can eat a threatening challenge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Yeah. I like him with 7 Sternguard and either a Librarian or Priest (or both if running multiple detachments). Combi weapons to flavour, run the Libby with Divination powers and blow something away. I've found this weeks really well in a droppod, though you need other pods for saturation or in a rhino. EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 On a darker tone, i choose Death Company Captain Tycho. Complete him with 9 other DC brothers (either with Bolter or Bolt Pistol/Chainsword) and a drop pod or a rhino, and you got a very hard force to deal with. Tycho provide a real advantage to the squad, with his 2+/4++ and fnp 5+.....If your enemy do not have an AP2 weapon when fighting the squad, Tycho can litterally block the fight until you win the fight. I like using Tycho with a Boltgun DC but I really see no point in using the Lost version here, he is already 2+/4++ which arguably makes FNP on him useless and the DC already have FNP anyway. Id rather have the reliable 18" melta shot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I like using Tycho with a Boltgun DC but I really see no point in using the Lost version here, he is already 2+/4++ which arguably makes FNP on him useless and the DC already have FNP anyway. Id rather have the reliable 18" melta shot.. I dont get it. DC Tycho still has blood song, and 2+/4++/5+++ is better than 2+/4++. If youre using him to tank AP3 or worse, then FNP makes all the difference. Same if he's taking AP2 with the iron halo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I'm also not sure what you mean by rather having the reliable melta shot. Tycho the Lost still has Blood Song and BS5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 I'm also not sure what you mean by rather having the reliable melta shot. Tycho the Lost still has Blood Song and BS5? He still has BS5 as per a generic captain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 The only statline change Tycho has from Captain to the Lost is an extra base attack (3 to 4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 The only statline change Tycho has from Captain to the Lost is an extra base attack (3 to 4). Apologies I thought lost was BS4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 He was in the last Codex, so it's understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Purely because the book isn't near me, what's ol' Thcho's Warlord Trait? It different between the two versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Rampage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Red Rampage in both versions. Which can be fun, especially with the Lost's higher base attacks. With Rampage, that's the possibility for 9 attacks on the charge, at WS6, S5 and I6 (if in a BSF). But again, the lack of any AP on those attacks does hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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