so now you've got a chapter...

[paulJam]

or a warband or a regiment...

perhaps you have two, or three, or even more...

 

what are you doing with them?

 

what was your goal when you startedor your intention for making the chapter?

 

and did it turn out as planned, or take you to a deadend, or somewhere good but unexpected?

 

just curious.

[Kelborn]

Every chapter I've worked on was mend to get his own story in form of a novel.

 

It started with the Dark Knights, a samurai themed chapter which protected the Nippon sub sector. My very first attempt to create a chapter. Became a deadend as I found something more interesting.

 

Because of the Liber Challenge, I started a warband called Black Hand. It was mend to be the archenemy of the Dark Knights. A former part of a BA successor chapter which is about to become a Khorne Daemonkin warband. Finished the article but it was a mess with a lot of mistakes and wholes in it. Stopped working on them.

Then I switched over to the Storm Riders, a Hawaiian themed successor chapter of the Dark Knights, which I created for another Liber Challenge.

 

Now about half a year after nearly finishing them... I'm abandoning or revising them.

 

Dark Knights = RIP

Black Hands = will be used as antagonist but nothing complex anymore

Storm Riders = currently being revised (for example: now they are a White Scars successor chapter which has his seeds in a former WS brotherhood during the HH), will become my main chapter

 

My dream is to complete a detailed article about the Riders. Even to extend and connect them with another idea of mine, a blackshield force called Black Angels. Furthermore I'm using parts of my abandoned Dark Knights and Black Hands to enhance the new fluff of my Riders. After finishing the IA article, I hope to have enough material and ideas to really go about trying to write a novel or something like that about them.

 

It's a process which will take a very long time but that is my what I intend to do.

 

And if that is not enough, I got some Knight Households for the BotL project which want to be finished as well. :D

[Olis]

My original DIY was and has always been intended as a 'playable' DIY. I've got at least two partial or full DIY articles with entities that are intended to be represented at some point. Everything else is just for the joy of it.

[Aqui]

Everyone of mine were originally intended to be self contained, but as the number grew, I also realised that they needed antagonists to fight against. It was easy(ier) for me to weave their fates together to a greater or lesser fashion than it was to keep them separate

[Cpt_Reaper]

My Angels of Shadow are my main force, with all my other armies being related to them somehow. Think of it as a slowly expanding web with my Angels in the middle.

 

They began as an excuse for why my models were black and silver (They're not Iron Hands! They're...uh...the Shadow Guard).

Then I played around with the 4th edition Traits system and they became their own Chapter. They got renamed with the release of 4th ed. Dark Angels to Angels of Shadow. Now they have a homeworld, a slowly fleshed out system, developing heraldry, two different naming conventions and I've even toyed around with making a successor Chapter.

 

So the short version is they began as an excuse for weak painting skills, now they form the centre of my DiY works. 

[exetus]

Mine have always been intended to be playable armies that met some specific form of combat that I wanted to embrace.  Then they were intended to have their own stories and, maybe, somehow sneak into the GW pantheon by way of a "create your own chapter" competition or a short story.

[Firepower]

Mine turned into a chance to try some new things; a brown color scheme, oil washes, airbrushing, zenithal highlights, OSL.  I think I was originally going to make it an allied force for my Templars, but after whipping up a batch for the ETL, I felt the need to just go back to my boys in black.

 

But mostly my more enthusiastic IA's turn into half completed articles and a pile of bitz that will never get used. :lol:

[Conn Eremon]

My intent for my very first DIY's was little more than to come up with a color scheme and name I liked that I could create in Dawn of War. My oldest DIYs began as this.

 

My first expansions into creating lore for them was in the form of Lost Legions, notes of which I still have and may one day return to. But it was pretty slow going and sporadic growth, just random(ly bad) scribbling s on scratch paper.

 

Then I got my hands on FFG's Rites of Battle, and I tried my hand at the Chapter creation rules. I had fun with it. A lot of fun. I made half a dozen Chapters, all of which are just gone now. Overwritten or deleted. But I decided to use those rules to recreate that Chapter I had made in Dawn of War.

 

I then decided to make nine more, one DIY for each gene-line. Those still exist, and I have been working on them off and on for the past five years. A link in my sig shows those I have so far posted to the Liber.

 

Over time, /tg/ has modified the Chapter creation rules to apply to many other factions. They're far from FFG's quality of course, but I enjoy using them. I still have that "one article per faction variation" mindset that saw me create ten Chapters, and so have many DIYs for each faction.

 

All of my DIYs have had dice determine many of their defining aspects, though the end products may not have necessarily held onto those results. I am far from done, only perhaps halfway through my Imperial/Chaos Marine DIYs, and a couple of the articles I have already posted I really need to start over on, but ultimately I am happy with my work and rate of progress. Most of the fun is in the act of creation.

[Ioldanach]

My long-term intent has been to create a DIY that would serve as the background for my Space Marine army. I've had limited time in which to actually get such an army ready for the tabletop. My creative process generally starts with some sort of challenge. In most cases, the source of the challenge has been one of the "don'ts" that many DIyers recommend against, the goal being to find a solid basis for such a Chapter that, in many players' opinions, shouldn't be created. Sometimes the challenge is presented by another hobbyist, as in the Brotherhood of Angels challenge (which I don't have time to participate in this year ).

My first DIY, the Avenging Lions, was born of the extreme reactions that some players have when other players talk about successors of the Black Templars. Also, the chapter's livery is brown, a color that isn't often seen on Space Marines (cue quotes of Deadpool from the movie). This remains the chapter that I am most likely to use as the basis for my actual army, whenever I get around to it.

[/clearfloat]

My second DIY, the Accusers, was born of the opinion espoused by many players that the 2nd Founding should be off limits. My goal was to find a way to create a 2nd Founding chapter and have it fit within the fluff. My workaround with this chapter was the possibility of additional primogenitor chapters as mentioned as long ago as 2nd edition, also working in a sinister aspect to the otherwise squeaky clean Ultramarines chapter. This chapter didn't turn out the way I'd originally envisioned, largely because part-way through the creation process I was contacted by another member about a collaborative effort that tied the Accusers with his DIY (and I'm not going to reveal either the other member or his DIY). This ended up being a very satisfying effort. If I ever collect an army of these guys, it will most likely be for the Scouring (either using the Age of Darkness rules or, if Forge World moves forward, the Scouring rules). I might also use the Horus Heresy rules for the pre-Scouring version of the chapter in army form. This chapter also gives me the opportunity to create Chaos Space Marines, either in addition to the loyalist version or as an alternative.

My third DIY, the Inferno Wardens was actually intended to be a non-Space Wolves successor that used the Space Wolves rules (while I'm fine with flouting head-cannon, I won't deliberately violate any explicit canon). The actual impetus for creating this chapter was when @Greyall challenged members to submit a DIY. The challenge I incorporated into this chapter was an exploration of the practices of the Exorcists and what might happen if another chapter ever emulated aspects of those practices (my concept for this chapter being that the Inferno Wardens were actually the inspiration for the Exoricsts but, not being under the control of the Inquisition, were wiped out for even trying such a thing). I really dig this chapter, its lore, and its appearance, so it is a strong contender to replace the Avenging Lions as my primary army. I still lean strongly towards the Avenging Lions, though, as they remain extant in the current time setting of the Warhammer 40,000 game, so the Inferno Wardens will probably only be realized as a kill team or as a small army.

The fourth DIY that I've completed (so far) is the Throne Knights. This chapter was created solely for the intellectual challenge posed in the Brotherhood of Angels 2014 challenge - creating a successor of the Dark Angels Legion. The challenge I wanted to work on with this chapter was what might happen if a Dark Angels Legion successor ever cast aside the Hunt for the Fallen. I don't intend to actually collect a full army of these guys, though I may work on a kill team at some point in the future.[clearfloat]

Personally, the challenge of creating a chapter that fits in with the canon is quite interesting. Also, I take evil delight in watching as some members can't get past their own interpretations of the fluff when I (or others) present something that doesn't correspond to their headcanon. I like to combine my attempt at meshing with the fluff with presentation - providing other gamers with an article (or, in the case of the Accusers, a series of articles) that is fun to read and visually appealing. I'll probably be able to see only one of my DIYs realized as a "complete" army for the game, though I'd like to create kill teams or smaller armies for the others. I will probably put forth some time and effort to creating additional DIYs in the future, though I'd really like to focus my efforts on getting an army finished for the game. If I see specific ideas that members poo-poo based on headcanon, though, I may find motivation to start working on a new DIY sooner (as long as I can wrap my brain around an idea that I think is feasible).

[Ace Debonair]

or a warband or a regiment...

perhaps you have two, or three, or even more...

More. Definitely more.

what are you doing with them?

Painting the White Hawks, with a few guest appearances from the others.

Oh, and constantly rewriting and updating all their articles.

I do that way more than painting, actually.

what was your goal when you startedor your intention for making the chapter?

Well, the White Hawks were my Dawn of War Chapter, and the Champions of Athlum likewise for my nephew.

When we started collecting marines we did it for the sole point of bringing our Chapters to life, in a small way.

The Red Lords and Infinity Knights were always meant to be Librarium-standard articles, but never got there.

The Stonebound started as a random idea I'd had that I couldn't leave alone.

The Order of the Crimson Crescent was something I did for one of Aquilanus' Liber Challenges, and was a lot of fun to write even if I kept treating the Order like a Chapter to start with.

The sons of DELETED, of course, was my first serious attempt at an IA was another random idea that I simply couldn't relinquish.

The Brotherhood of Crows and the Warminds were added to the team of the White Hawks and Champions of Athlum because I wanted to fulfil my original goal of having four Chapters linked together throughout history.

and did it turn out as planned, or take you to a deadend, or somewhere good but unexpected?

just curious.

Well, mostly they've fallen short of my original plans, but I still consider all of my Chapters and so forth to be works in progress, so... there's still hope.

[Madwolf Shadowmane]

My Hounds of the Hunt was an attempt by me to create a record of my Chapter that was Librarium worthy.

[SickSix]

My DIY Dark Swords were mostly a justification for modelling Dark Angels without painting them green and getting to use the awesome robed marines.

 

I am currently working on their IA and they are about 3rd on the modeling priority list right now. Luckily most of the models are aldeady base coated.

 

So far the IA I think is shaping up. I need to continue to flesh some things out but I like where it's going. The backstory has definitely been a challenge and has had a couple major revisions.

[Carrack]

I started the DIY process when I first picked up the hobby, about 2 years ago. The setting was a major part of what lured me into the hobby. As I slapped paint on some badly posed models, I came up with little back stories for each model. Here are my first ones.

 

 

_CSM Casper- Casper is a connoisseur of fine dining. He enjoys engaging his omophagea, to sample the genetic experiences of the flesh he eats. However, he is no primitive, barbaric, cannibal. On contrary, he indulges in his favorite cuisine by candlelight and soft music, at a finely set table. He prefers the flesh of poets, scholars, and artists, in that order. Accordingly, his thralls all pretend to be simpletons and slobs.

 

_CSM Avarg- (Kia Calebra hive) When the Sons of Horus Legionnaires sought refuge within the Eye of Terror, they began to become physically distinguished from their loyalist cousins. One common way this manifested, was with horns. Exposure to the warp wrought changes in the helmets of some, a few were gifted with horns growing straight from their skulls, yet others mounted the horns of ferocious beast to their helmets as trophies, and still others had no horns of all. Avarg views hunting beast as beneath his dignity as an Astartes, but still wanted an intimidating set of horns. So one night on sentry duty, he carved a set out of a grox's pelvic bone and mounted it to his helm. No one is the wiser.

 

_CSM Paimun - ​Paimun is secretly an agent of the God Emperor of Mankind. He has been tasked with covertly infiltrating the Black Legion and rising up its ranks until he can wrest control of the legion, and lead it back to the light of righteousness and purity. Paimun knows he is a secret agent of the God Emperor because the free willed intelligent cyst mutating on his spleen told him so.

 

_CSM Copil - Copil is the youngest member of Squad Vinno. He was a clone grown initiate produced by the infamous Fabious Bile. As the youngest member of the squad, he is given the most menial tasks, and frequently made the butt of cruel practical jokes. He is just shy of 8,000 years old sidereal.

 

 

 

I then started participation in the Inspirational Friday writing contests on the CSM board, and the background of my warband started developing from there. After a dozen or so stories, I decided to try my hand at a Liber article. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308028-it-black-maw-warband/?fromsearch=1

This was certainly fun, but I also like writing narrative fiction, and I found having an extensive liber article to be a mixed blessing. Its great to have a wealth of background information to draw upon, but I found myself not wanting to contradict background I've already established, and having so many things already written down, limiting in a sense. Eventually, when the tale of the Black Maw is complete, I'll revisit the article and update it with the background I have created, than fill in the blanks.