Ario Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Hi there! I've been grappling with the idea of starting 30k for ages, but honestly with my current financial circumstances (student, moving town soon etc..) it wouldn't be the cleverest of ideas. A full 40k army seems out of the question too, I just don't have the time to build and paint, let alone game with, all those models. Therefore, I've decided to give Heralds of Ruin's Kill Team a go. I've always had a thing for the 'ragtag band of misfits' idea of an Inquisitor and their retinue, so I've been working on a small 250pt list. I'll post the list later once I've finalised it. One model I will definitely be using is a Death Cult assassin, but with a twist. Since I have an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor leading my force I thought it'd be interesting to mix it up a bit and make them an alien assassin. I was thinking Eldar, probably Dark Eldar, somehow coerced or bartered into the Inquisitor's service. My other thought was some kind of Kroot, thought they'd have to be a pretty impressive Kroot specimen to match the unit profile of a Death Cult assassin Maybe some kind of Shaper, but that begs the question of why a Kroot leader would be hanging with humans and not, you know, guiding the evolution of their tribe/race. Perhaps they think the Inquisitor can help them with that..? I've no idea, this is all idea-brewing at this point. So, you have the floor now! Has anybody got alternative ideas for a Death Cult assassin, preferably an alien, and maybe some interesting backdoor ideas for them? Go wild, I'd love to hear what you come up with! Also, if you had any ideas for possible models I could convert from, that'd be awesome too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Hi there! I've been grappling with the idea of starting 30k for ages, but honestly with my current financial circumstances (student, moving town soon etc..) it wouldn't be the cleverest of ideas. A full 40k army seems out of the question too, I just don't have the time to build and paint, let alone game with, all those models. Therefore, I've decided to give Heralds of Ruin's Kill Team a go. I've always had a thing for the 'ragtag band of misfits' idea of an Inquisitor and their retinue, so I've been working on a small 250pt list. I'll post the list later once I've finalised it. One model I will definitely be using is a Death Cult assassin, but with a twist. Since I have an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor leading my force I thought it'd be interesting to mix it up a bit and make them an alien assassin. I was thinking Eldar, probably Dark Eldar, somehow coerced or bartered into the Inquisitor's service. My other thought was some kind of Kroot, thought they'd have to be a pretty impressive Kroot specimen to match the unit profile of a Death Cult assassin Maybe some kind of Shaper, but that begs the question of why a Kroot leader would be hanging with humans and not, you know, guiding the evolution of their tribe/race. Perhaps they think the Inquisitor can help them with that..? I've no idea, this is all idea-brewing at this point. So, you have the floor now! Has anybody got alternative ideas for a Death Cult assassin, preferably an alien, and maybe some interesting backdoor ideas for them? Go wild, I'd love to hear what you come up with! Also, if you had any ideas for possible models I could convert from, that'd be awesome too. When I get around to it, I'm going to use the Witch Elf models as DCA for my Sisters I know nothing of the Inquisition Codex, so I can't say anything on that though. I have considered getting it to add to my Sisters... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4353550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Back in the day of Inquisitor (the 40mm version produced by GW) a Kroot Mercenary was a warband option. As far as Xenos go, I have a Squat Plasmagunner (EBay find) with bright orange hair painted and that I use in my own current warbands. I've actually been tempted to start making some Grot Acolytes (possibly the Grot Technicians from the GW site) out of sheer hilarity. In terms of DCA's... I was actually considering a Harlequin model with two power swords. According to the old old Inquisition fluff, the Illuminati (a sub-branch secret society within the Thorians, they're in the old Inquisition War novels) have connections/are working with the Harlequins. So I figured a Harlequin DCA wouldn't be out of place. I also considered a Kroot but haven't done one up yet. Haven't quite figured out which henchmen was a good match for their statline. I also am working on a Tau Pathfinder with an Imperial bolter as an Acolyte since I butchered the weapon off a pewter one years ago for a conversion and still have the bulk of the body to work with :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4353576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mud Duck Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Dwarf Bezerker DE Incubi, Succubus, Lhmaean Sicarian Infiltrators Skaven Plague monks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4353603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 Yeah, I've been looking at a lot of the various Eldar ranges, including Harlequins. The best thing I've found so far, with the right kind of dynamic pose, is the Dark Elf Assassin. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Dark-Elves-Shadowblade# Conversion would probably involve me removing the cloak, replacing the head with something from the Wych box set and given them a power sword, somehow. I like the Harlequin idea, I was trying to figure exactly how to get a decent pose, something that emphasises the speed of the model. I'll be assaulting alongside a couple of Arco-flagellants so they need to look like they can keep up! I've had problems so far locating a right-handed Eldar power sword though. All the kits I see have them exclusively left-handed. Not sure if anybody knows where such a coveted weapon might be found? A Sicarian might work too though, it'd certainly fit with the Xenotech Retrieval Group idea I had for the force, some extra AdMech presence in the force would make sense, aside from the hardwired Magos I was going to put in their Razorback. I'd not considered Tau, though I think my Inquisitor might be pushing their luck by having two filthy xenos in their retinue :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4353631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 As usual with Inquisition stuff, your imagination is really the only limit. For my retinue, I wanted to go with something a bit less rag-tag and more militaristic and ecclesiastic to fit with my Inquisitor. Also, my Inquisition troops are most frequently fielded alongside my Death Korps of Krieg army, so I did two death cult assassins themed as "Death Kommandos" and used DKoK engineers without backpacks, and with a Grey Knight power sword in each hand. They are the two models on the left: I am now working on building a Scion-themed elite close combat commando-type DCA ... probably going to use legs and torso of Cadian to represent flak armour versus carapace (plus to avoid cutting into my supply of Scion models), then give a Scion helmet and arms with power swords. Paint all black to set apart from my black armour with red fatigues Inquisitorial Stormtroopers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4353713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I use Catachans with some handswaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4354475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeptus Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I use Catachans with some handswaps. really? Because that's hilarious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4355051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Yep! They actually have a lot of arms with long swords, and if you cut off their forearms and stick a power sword arm in there from a marine the scale actually fits haha In their fluff they are experts with the Catachan Fang (that big-ass sword they carry) so I can imagine the DCA statline fits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4355448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Given how huge Catachans are compared to other Guard models, the Str 4 statline fits them well. It seems to me that the Catachans could have elite hand-to-hand combat units, used to operating in dense jungles who would be very good at fighting. Maybe some combat stims or something to get to the high initiative and # of attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4355677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 And a 5++ muscle save. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4361445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 And a 5++ muscle save. Lightning reflexes, honed after a lifetime of dodging venom spits/poisoned quills/slashing talons from their homeworld should fit the bill too. Actually, the special close combat unit with combat stimms makes a lot of sense if you ask me. Just need a headswap to make them less "gung-ho" and more grimmdark... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4366467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Maybe the helmeted Scion heads with pipes connecting to a stimmpack on their backs? Something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4366830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I should get some pictures up :D I'll see what i can do on the weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4371960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Please do! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4372433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarn Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I use a necromunda van saar ganger with a longsword from an aragorn mini. Fluff wise i think the 5++ comes from a stealth suit and the str4 is because its a longsword. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4379067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I've had problems so far locating a right-handed Eldar power sword though. All the kits I see have them exclusively left-handed. Not sure if anybody knows where such a coveted weapon might be found? A Sicarian might work too though, it'd certainly fit with the Xenotech Retrieval Group idea I had for the force, some extra AdMech presence in the force would make sense, aside from the hardwired Magos I was going to put in their Razorback. I'd not considered Tau, though I think my Inquisitor might be pushing their luck by having two filthy xenos in their retinue Kroot come with crazy martial arts involving bladed staffs and Shapers are basically HQ in the Troops slot. A Kroot as a DCA would work perfectly fine without any crazy fluff in my opinion. They're just a specialist. As for right-handed eldar swords, why not just clip the hand out of a left-handed one and put a right hand from a pistol in its place? That's kind of like what I did with my Aspiring Sorceress and my Mantis Warrior librarian; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/IK%20and%2040K/My%20Projects/IMG_0405_zps69bf03a0.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/IK%20and%2040K/My%20Projects/Illesus004.jpg Yep! They actually have a lot of arms with long swords, and if you cut off their forearms and stick a power sword arm in there from a marine the scale actually fits haha In their fluff they are experts with the Catachan Fang (that big-ass sword they carry) so I can imagine the DCA statline fits. I thought the Catachan Fang was supposed to be a machete type knife? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4393902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedibear Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I looked it up, I got it wrong. The smaller big knife is the Catachan Fang, the bigass sword is the Devil's Claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4398944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Matt Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I've actually had this same thought. I ended up using Harlequins as a base with Dark Eldar Wych heads. I kept the original harlequin swords in one hand and swapped the pistols for a variety of melee weapons from Wyches, Dark Elves and Wood Elves. I'm pretty happy with the results, though I haven't painted them yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4446408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 I've actually had this same thought. I ended up using Harlequins as a base with Dark Eldar Wych heads. I kept the original harlequin swords in one hand and swapped the pistols for a variety of melee weapons from Wyches, Dark Elves and Wood Elves. I'm pretty happy with the results, though I haven't painted them yet. Picture? I'd like to see how this looks, even unpainted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4456259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kierdale Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 I'll suggest Dark Elf witches as they have excellent dynamic poses (and weapons, masks...the box is fantastic though not cheap) or Wood Elf Wildwood Rangers: hoods (plus masks in some cases), cool weapons, long cloaks. :tu: I use the former to convert into Daemonettes and am making some cultists from the latter now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4456502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Dark Elf Assassin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4468169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Guy Matt Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 I've actually had this same thought. I ended up using Harlequins as a base with Dark Eldar Wych heads. I kept the original harlequin swords in one hand and swapped the pistols for a variety of melee weapons from Wyches, Dark Elves and Wood Elves. I'm pretty happy with the results, though I haven't painted them yet. Picture? I'd like to see how this looks, even unpainted. As you wish, http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/Asamodai/Warhammer/WP_20150804_002.jpg http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/Asamodai/Warhammer/WP_20150804_003.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321073-alternative-death-cult-assassin/#findComment-4475559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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