Stercus Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Ok folks, as the title suggests, I'm looking to replace my old pot of citadel black wash after a decade of faithful service. While I like the newer citadel washes just fine they're really a very different product. My best guess is that so one like Vallejo will do something in the area I'm looking for, but I don't have much experience with their range. Does anyone have any suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amayasu Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Secret weapon do some excellent black washes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4355186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 you can make your own and play with the drop ratios between ink, flow improver and medium and customize it they way you like it. Check this tutorial out: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4355568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 That's pretty interesting. If I had more hobby time that's exactly the kind of thing I'd like to do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4355622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Are you talking about the old inks (which weren't water-fast), or the first GW washes (which were water-fast)? I think (i.e. others say) the paints & inks made by Coat D'Arms are the same as the 1990's-era round/hexagonal flip-top GW ones (the ones with the white caps), so maybe have a look and see if you can find them? They're made by HMG Paints and distributed by Black Hat Miniatures in the UK, and I think Scalecreep Miniatures in the US. I haven't tried the Vallejo inks, but I'd expect them to be similar. Their washes are acrylic stains, like the GW washes, although I think they might be a bit thinner (I've only used their Umber Wash). Alternatively, you can make your own using Winsor & Newton, Rowney, etc inks, as Brother Najanus posted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4355756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Mine is the hexagonal pop top bottle. Probably dates back to 1998-ish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4359786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 I think (i.e. others say) the paints & inks made by Coat D'Arms are the same as the 1990's-era round/hexagonal flip-top GW ones (the ones with the white caps), so maybe have a look and see if you can find them? Based on this, these should be the ones you're looking for, especially as they have a direct matchup to the Citadel colours both old and new on the page. Should be the Wash Black (rather than the Super Wash black) http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?category=accessories~paints-%252d-coat-d'arms Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4360689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Mine is the hexagonal pop top bottle. Probably dates back to 1998-ish. Sounds like the last variant of the GW Coat D'Arms paints, then. As Lucio says, you'll want their "Ink Wash Black" (#154) - not to be confused with their Black Super Wash (#169). http://www.blackhat.co.uk/coat-darms/7791-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4361689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickSix Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I have to vote for Secret Weapon's Soft and Hard body black washes. They are fantastic. But Vallejo also makes a Game Ink series. And their Game Color line matches up to the old GW paints nearly perfectly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4366038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d@n Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 p3 armour wash is the best thing ever made Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4366043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I like Liquitex inks, they are pretty similiar to the old GW inks imo^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321143-replacement-for-old-school-black-ink/#findComment-4366116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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