Frater Cornelius Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 These are purely hypothetical questions. Could a Knight Throne be modifies to accommodate a Marine? Also, could a Knight be modified to function as a Dreadnought XXL? Cheers ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I'm not touching that one with a stick. But as a hypothetical this is the golden age where technology wasn't stagnant and the dread knight had to come from somewhere so yes but no.... just no next thing you'll ask if space marines can wear Armour over their armour or ride sleighs into battle Edit: golden not holden Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Could a Knight Throne be modifies to accommodate a Marine? NO! Also, could a Knight be modified to function as a Dreadnought XXL? Only for a Knight Scion. The Highking of Vyronii uses his Megaera like a dreadnought (he got injured and is now perma bound to his throne) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 They can if you want them to. However the steak and chocolate rule applies. Steak is delicious. Chocolate is delicious. Mixing steak and chocolate probably won't be as good as either of them independently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 It was just a hypothetical question that came to mind. I don't even own a Knight at the present time so there is no danger. Just musing on the functionality, that's all :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Steak is delicious. Chocolate is delicious. Mixing steak and chocolate probably won't be as good as either of them independently. Actually, a beef steak with chocolate-redwine sauce is pretty yummy. But seriously, why would you want a Marine Knight? Knights are so cool on their own, they don't need to be Marines too (same applies for Rogue Traders or Genestealer-infected Patriarchs^^). A Throne Mechanicum would be too small, and probably not modify-able to fit a Marine. And it's not that Knight houses have not enough scions, but rather not enough suits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 Steak is delicious. Chocolate is delicious. Mixing steak and chocolate probably won't be as good as either of them independently. Actually, a beef steak with chocolate-redwine sauce is pretty yummy. But seriously, why would you want a Marine Knight? Knights are so cool on their own, they don't need to be Marines too (same applies for Rogue Traders or Genestealer-infected Patriarchs^^). A Throne Mechanicum would be too small, and probably not modify-able to fit a Marine. And it's not that Knight houses have not enough scions, but rather not enough suits. See above, a purely theoretical question... Maybe I should replace Marine with Ogryn? The question on the relationnof physiology and the functionality of the Throne would not differ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Steak with chocolate & chilli sauce is the nommiest. There's a good reason there are no Knight Marines. They're completely independent organisations, the secrets of the Knightly houses aren't known to the Legions. There's also the oddity of why? A Marine is created by the Emperor's genetic sciencem to be the ultimate weapon. A Knight is also created, by the Mechanicus, to be a heavy support platform. It's sort of like attaching a bayonet to a rocket launcher, you could but why. You have your rocket launcher and knives separate, but use them both in synergy. Anything that survives being blown up (by the Knights) is stabbed (by the Space Marines). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Ok smart :cuss es, chocolate and chili sauce is delicious. :D You know what I mean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 There is a movie called Heavyweights, about kids at a fat camp The kids take over the camp and have a night of food fueled excess that would make Slaanesh proud. The next morning, the kids are abruptly woken up and asked what did they learn last night One of them says "Don't put twinkees on your pizza" Just because 2 things are friggin awesome, doesn't mean you have to mix them. They are both awesome for different reasons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Possible? Yes. Hell, there are a couple of examples of marines being dreadnoughted into freaking void ships! Cool? Nah. Knights are their own awesome thing. The integration of the Empire's military and how it humanizes the marines is part of what makes 30k cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted April 5, 2016 Author Share Posted April 5, 2016 The question wasn't about coolness. It was about functionality. Stop twisting it in directions this wasn't meant to go :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The question wasn't about coolness. It was about functionality. Stop twisting it in directions this wasn't meant to go :P This is fiction. If the question isn't about coolness, you're asking the wrong question! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Lol The only time I've seen BL touch something like that with a twenty foot pole was when the 1st legion dreadnought interfaced with that super siege cannon thing in Fallen Angels via his MIU. I'd assume with all the technomancy and superstition about machine spirits that the AdMech and knight houses would forbids such a thing. I think some knight chassis have actually rejected pilots and fried their brains out. Plus, what wdo I'll be the benefit of doing such a thing? Maybe more speed? A marine's benefit is in his armor with boltgun in hand. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Possible? I don't know, but I could definitely imagine an IH or IW smith trying it out. The first out of sheer "merging marine and machine" goodness, the second because a knight is, short of a titan, one of the best siege weapons around... And post-Istvaan, they could both become even more likely, so why not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Bearclaw Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 It's sort of like attaching a bayonet to a rocket launcher, you could but why. So you can stab things while exploding them. Duh. This is kinda the wrong setting for that particular analogy though. 40k needs no reason to add gratuitous blades al ALL the guns. Even if the humans don't, the Orks will cover the deficit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Isn't a Bolter essentially a rocket propelled grenade launcher that marines frequently attach bayonets to? :P Semantics but hey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Could a Knight Throne be modifies to accommodate a Marine? NO! Also, could a Knight be modified to function as a Dreadnought XXL? Only for a Knight Scion. The Highking of Vyronii uses his Megaera like a dreadnought (he got injured and is now perma bound to his throne) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4355570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firenze Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 The problem is the Marine's ability to meld with the Machine spirit. There are only a very select few people who can hold back the torrents of data that you get when plugged in and not go insane, and even less who can control it. While a Legionnaire is one of the strongest willed soldiers in the Imperium, Im not sure their training really covers sentient machines in their skull. Maybe a Techmarine but not the average Legionnaire. Also... WHY. The Marine is an incredible living weapon. Why waste the gene-forging when they are just going to be plugged into a robot? Its daft. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayray Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 The question wasn't about coolness. It was about functionality. Stop twisting it in directions this wasn't meant to go It's your hobby, sounds like it could be a neat idea, so just do it. It would be functional if you wanted it to be, so why ask anyone else, really? You asking just sounds like you're seeking approval and attention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStabby Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 It's sort of like attaching a bayonet to a rocket launcher, you could but why. I actually have a rocket launcher with a bayonet on it in FO4... Of course I also have a flame thrower that shoots ice... Random loot tables are the best. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iduddy Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Scions are basically bred to pilot Knights. In many cases it is like purebred dogs, and are inbred. On top of the genetic selection from birth, the Scions spend most of their youth preparing to interface with the Knight's spirit. It is like the Astartes' training regiment, but completely divergent paths. Scions are made to interface, while Astartes are made to receive the Black Carapace. They are not compatible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kossaka Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Is think it would be cool if it was a kind of Legion auxilia. Humans who didn't quite pass muster for argumentation are instead handed over to be trained as knight pilots. Then there are Knights who can meld with and augment legion tactics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I could see them being modified to effectively be a huge dreadnought.... Being as there isn't much of the marines body that goes into a dread so space wouldn't be an issue. And the notion that a marine couldn't handle interfacing with the machine spirit I can't see being a legit reason why it wouldn't work. A leviathan has a pretty mean machine spirit yet marines pilot them. Now would it ever happen? Maybe . Would it be sanctioned by a knight house or the Mechanicum? Not a snow balls chance in hell. It would be considered tech Heresy I'm pretty sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4356898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvmoogy Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Dismembered marines are made into dreadnoughts, so the size issue is mute to me. I'm sure I read in one of The Dark Angel books a dreadnought being ripped apart and put in something bigger.....can't remember the book though....one of Gav Thorpes ,aye...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321145-marines-piloting-knights/#findComment-4357108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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