Space Wolves inspired Knight!

[Jegind]

Just picked up the Renagade 2x Imperial Knight box, and was wondering if anyone ever made an Imperial Knight inspired from ze Space Wolves. Wold love to see pictures :D

[ElectricPaladin]

This guy on Shapeways has produced a number of conversion kits for making your knight wolfier. He's got some images of a fully wolfified knight available on his profile.

[Wispy]

This is mine!

[ElectricPaladin]

This is mine!

Did you make the bits? Or just buy them from the guy I linked to?

[Wispy]

I bought the head and feet from Shane. everything else (claw, assault cannon, helfrost cannons) are stuff I customed from GW bitz.

[Dantay VI]

Bladewolfs, Knights are Space Wolf allied also.

[Vash113]

Here's a shot of my currently painted knight:
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/Space%20Wolves/12047184_825747194209043_4609042818344295577_n_zpskb11qdbt.jpg
 

I also bought the renegade box and am waiting for my Iron Wolf head order from shapeways to come in to build them.

[PeteySödes]

Question, is there precedent for Astartes Knights? I mean if anyone could justify it because they do what they was its us but i was curious on the accepted cannon lore.

[Vash113]

Question, is there precedent for Astartes Knights? I mean if anyone could justify it because they do what they was its us but i was curious on the accepted cannon lore.

 

Speaking from a purely fluff perspective, no, the Throne Mechanicum can only be operated by specific genetic family groups, this is why the Knight Households have to be courted by the Adeptus Mechanicus and cannot be strong armed, even the Mechanicus can't simply replace or replicate the pilots, only the Households can produce the careful mixture of breeding and training required to pilot a Knight Titan. Even then the success rate is far from 100% and it is not uncommon for young nobles to be crippled or perish trying to commune with the Throne Mechanicum. It is also why pilots don't swap Knight suits regularly, each Throne Mechanicum is unique and requires great effort and risk to bond with, replacing them is far from easy.

 

That said it is not unheard of for a Knight to be seconded to another Imperial military branch, particularly the Adeptus Titanicus during which the Knight repaints it's armor with the color and heraldry of the Titan Legion it is seconded too. Individual Freeblades and household lances have also been known to fight alongside Crusade forces and Space Marine Companies from time to time, traveling and deploying with one group for an extended period. It is plausible, if not directly stated, that a Knight could be seconded to an Imperial battlegroup, Inquisitor, Space Marine Chapter, Sororitas convent or other Imperial military group, temporarily repainting it's armor and heraldry with those of the adopted adeptus for it's duration of service.

 

However the pilot himself (or sometimes herself) would still be a noble of a Knightly Household.

[Wispy]

GW needs to carve out a clear place in the fluff where Knights can wear the exact same colours and iconography as a space marine army they're allied with. You know, so I can do a knight with Space Wolves colours and totems and feel it belongs in the setting. the freeblade stuff helps but I need something more specific.

 

The single minded urge to make all my guys look uniform and part of the same army came out on top, but it brought with it the feeling of 'yes, I did, but technically I'm doing it wrong.'

[ElectricPaladin]

GW needs to carve out a clear place in the fluff where Knights can wear the exact same colours and iconography as a space marine army they're allied with. You know, so I can do a knight with Space Wolves colours and totems and feel it belongs in the setting. the freeblade stuff helps but I need something more specific.

 

The single minded urge to make all my guys look uniform and part of the same army came out on top, but it brought with it the feeling of 'yes, I did, but technically I'm doing it wrong.'

 

YHMV (Your Hobby May Vary), and that's fine, but I personally really enjoy the fluff as it is. An Imperial army should look like a mess of different forces united by a tenuous faith and duty to Mankind. Space Marines in their different colors and livery, Imperial Guard regiments from several different worlds, Knights of one or more houses, plus a Freeblade or two. I like it! It's fun, it lends a lot of depth to the setting. Finding some excuse to paste everything over with the same colors. Here are my grey wolf-themed Space Wolves and the special grey wolf-themed Prosperan IG regiment and also a grey wolf-themed Knight... I honestly don't see the appeal. At all.

 

It's one thing to find an excuse for your army to have complimentary colors and themes, that's a neat aesthetic choice. It's something else to try to make everything the same.

 

Like I said. YHMV. You do you. But I don't think GW is going to acquiesce, because I don't think that's their vision for the setting.

[Wispy]

 

GW needs to carve out a clear place in the fluff where Knights can wear the exact same colours and iconography as a space marine army they're allied with. You know, so I can do a knight with Space Wolves colours and totems and feel it belongs in the setting. the freeblade stuff helps but I need something more specific.

 

The single minded urge to make all my guys look uniform and part of the same army came out on top, but it brought with it the feeling of 'yes, I did, but technically I'm doing it wrong.'

 

Finding some excuse to paste everything over with the same colors. Here are my grey wolf-themed Space Wolves and the special grey wolf-themed Prosperan IG regiment and also a grey wolf-themed Knight... I honestly don't see the appeal. At all.

 

 

It's not your army, therefore the colour choices are none of your business.  i don't care what appeals to you.

 

The fluff gives you the creative support to do what you want with your army... I only want the same thing. 

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

I'm on my phone, so can't do the pretty color changes, but how about we stay on topic or we stay quiet?

Does that work for everybody, because it's the only options on the table

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

Just deleted one off topic post.

Stay frosty and on topic brothers and sisters

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

And another.

Please stay on topic or take it to PMs if you absolutely need to be heard.

[sturguard]

I have a knight Warden sitting in a box I have been thinking about adding to my SW (but I am not a huge lover of all these apoc units)- if I paint him, I will do so according to that small piece of fluff in the SW codex where a knight pledges himself to Logan after Logan saves him. I forget what household it was. That way you keep with the fluff but the color scheme may vary.

[RikuEru]

Friend I brought back into the hobby gifted me the Warden half of his (first)Renegade Box (and two boxes' scenery)

I WILL run it with my Wolves.

And I want it to fit in.

But I don't want it to be Space Wolfy.

So I'll go the viking/nordic route. Maybe something ancient germanic? A leaf like spot on his back shoulder? (a la siegfried)

Definitely some destroyed knights' facemasks on a chain, as tokens of war, though.

[ElectricPaladin]

Definitely some destroyed knights' facemasks on a chain, as tokens of war, though.

 

Ooh... I like that idea. I might do that, myself. I'm running a Mechanicum house, but that sounds like the kind of personal touch that I can see them doing anyway, even though it would irritate the tech priests... though, that said, they are sworn to the Firebrands, which isn't exactly a "calm and reasonable" titan legion!

[Vash113]

Definitely some destroyed knights' facemasks on a chain, as tokens of war, though.

 

I put some around my Knight's waist, here's some pics that show them:

 

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/House%20Cenwulf/11150934_762261600557603_2640405243718036048_n_zpsu3ntfpsi.jpg

 

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/Vash113/House%20Cenwulf/11390567_762261637224266_8724114418789111487_n_zpsna9seikl.jpg

 

Trophies of past duels all painted with different colors.

[Dantay VI]

My Knights do not bear any real similarities to the Space Wolf army they are allied to, but a campaign badge can help to unify them.

[Wispy]

a campaign badge can help to unify them.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Impressive work, Vash113. However, relatives of the Knighs whose helms your "Space Wolves-inspired Knight" wear as trophies, will undoubtedly challenge your Knight to redeem their Knightly Houses' honor.

[Yoyo ninja]

My Knight that is Oathsworn to my Wolves is a freeblade so is painted with his own heraldry. Then he has the honour of being aloud to display his loyalty to my Wolf Lord by having great company markings on his tilt shield and on one of his knee guard.

It satisfies my fluff craving, he doesn't have to much wolfie stuff on it though. I'm sure you could add stuff though as you wanted and it would still work.

[Chmur]

I don't see reason why they couldn't. Read the books back and forth and I believe there are 2 ways you can go about it.

First is how Yoyo ninja (just above me) does it - just make freeblade and make some nice, neat story how the knight decided to stick with the company for whatever reason, over time that story expands to him practically becoming part of your legion/chapter/company. Feats of the Knight at battle would put him on the level with Dreadnoughts/Terminators so he would soon earn the honor if he so chose to wear the heraldry of the chapter along his own. And you can always opt for his own heraldry to be rather... plain.

Second possibility is a bit more stretching the fluff, but again, I haven't found any canon against it. It's the way I will go about my Knight. I am pushing my Dark Angels (That's right, DA player! ) into Consecrators (successor chapter that focuses on finding relics of old) and basically one of my expeditions found unknown amounts of Knights, derelict. Our techmarines managed to salvage them and to fuse Dreadnought sarcophagi into the Knight interface, so in my chapter they will be painted in full Consecrator colour, no personal heraldry, no anything, as they will be considered to be same "technical wonder" as Dreads.

Props to the Shapeways heads etc, those knights look awesome. For Space Wolves... ;)

[Vash113]

Second possibility is a bit more stretching the fluff, but again, I haven't found any canon against it. It's the way I will go about my Knight. I am pushing my Dark Angels (That's right, DA player! ) into Consecrators (successor chapter that focuses on finding relics of old) and basically one of my expeditions found unknown amounts of Knights, derelict. Our techmarines managed to salvage them and to fuse Dreadnought sarcophagi into the Knight interface, so in my chapter they will be painted in full Consecrator colour, no personal heraldry, no anything, as they will be considered to be same "technical wonder" as Dreads.

Well again it's your army so do what you want. However fluff wise that's just not supported. A Dreadnought Sarcophagus could not be swapped in to replace the Throne Mechanicum, otherwise the Mechanicus would have replaced them with MIU interfaces themselves. If you want a fluff-consistent way to do Knights in Marine colors there are a few ways as mentioned earlier but IMO this is not one of them.

Impressive work, Vash113. However, relatives of the Knighs whose helms your "Space Wolves-inspired Knight" wear as trophies, will undoubtedly challenge your Knight to redeem their Knightly Houses' honor.

I am totally OK with that, I've been trying out the Knight Duel rules from Imperial Knight Renegade and it looks pretty fun, just waiting for my Iron Wolf heads to arrive so I can build my new Knights and try the game out on the tabletop.