Making EC more knightly

[Rangaman]

True that, just ignore me :P

[Frater Cornelius]

True that, just ignore me

No worries, you got some solid fluff material there, which will become relevant further down the line ;)

[Daemon2027]

I always thought they had a Byzantium vibe, a mix of medieval knights and Classical Greece.

[depthcharge12]

Their culture seems to be that of high to late Rome when things were starting to get out of hand. As for their "feel" I never thought of them in a knight sort of manner. Sure they had dueling honor codes, but so do like every martial culture out there (some have been mentioned). Their blade work and hierarchy reminds me more of 17th-18th century France and their sword/saber/rapier clubs. As I've been reading Path to Heaven, it feels like the the Three Musketeers.

 

Knights didn't use flowery sword work and elegance. They half sworded, pommel bashed, caved each other's heads in with maces, and fought to win. Nobles rarely followed any code except their own - commonly overthrowing eachother in power grabs.

 

Hell, the EC might even be more like the romanticized American South during the Civil War. Elegant gentlemen of note who lead bayonet charges into the throat of the Union guns (and vice versa too, I'm a Yankee lol). Robert E Lee has analogues in my mind to Vespasian - a brilliant and dedicated leader that ultimate loses with the changing nature of America (the legion). And Tarvitz reminds me of General Longstreet - to humble to admit a higher place (he held Lee second to God), but ahead of his time in tactics, ironically pushing for the defensive tactics used in WWI (remind you of a certain conflict on hmmmm Isstvaan? ;)).

 

I wouldn't stop you from taking a knight theme, but I feel that the EC are closer in nature to the French fraternities and Southern military gentlemen. Each a renaissance man, his work: a reflection of his soul.

 

Edit: I also forgot that Eidolon is mentioned as having a drawl (from the Deep South for any of you non Americans)....Chris Wright seems to get where I'm going ;)

[GhostMalone]

I just don't see EC as knights.... I see them as praefectors and romanesque with a bit of rennosonce flair

 

Plus why would you want knights the angels are the knights

[Frater Cornelius]

I just don't see EC as knights.... I see them as praefectors and romanesque with a bit of rennosonce flair

 

Plus why would you want knights the angels are the knights

Since when do I need justification to model things the way I like? :P

[Lord Blackwood]

You don't. You also don't need to make a thread asking how to do X or Y when you know X or Y will be received poorly ( because the idea works counter to the established fluff and 30k players tend to work within that fluff) .

 

You should just do X or Y the way you want to.

 

As far as your question its been adequately answered by several people.

 

Grey knight bits

 

Dark angel bits.

 

Templar brethren bits.

 

Go produce a proof of concept and then maybe people can help you further.

[Frater Cornelius]

As far as I can see it wasn't received poorly at all. People may not agree with my interpretations or visual preferences, but that was never the point. We're all being civilized in here. In fact, you are the only person being confrontational right now :P

[GhostMalone]

Look how about we stop take a breather and give immersturm a chance to knock together a concept model before we take it off track etc.

 

Up to now we've answered the OP so once were given a wip concept we can help further and offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

 

Let's not allow negativity or bias or whatever is the case to take hold, remember boys and girls were a community here and every one is accepted no matter their idea/s and we need to respect it even if the inner fluff nazi takes hold.

 

Let us attempt to find a way to help both within fluff and historical context.

[Frater Cornelius]

@ depthcharge12 - I can see your point. I will temporarily assemble two models where I will try two styles. One will be the aforementioned cold steel of the high medieval period while the second will be more akin to what you menioned. A more graceful style, possibly even a rapier with a Schlager blade (made for slashing as opposed to thrusting) in place of their sabres, akin to the Warhammer Empire look. They use an interesting mix of the Renaissance and medieval looks and weaponry, which might fit even better. The big question is where to get rapiers with an adequate blade though... at least one to see how it would look.