Xenaur Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi, all I've recently been thinking about adding some Lernaean Terminators to my AL and it got me thinking there's only a few units left from book III that haven't yet been released by FW. Them being (I think) -Alpha Legion Lernaean Terminators -Iron Warriors Iron Havocs -Iron Warriors Tyrant Siege Terminators Do you think we'll ever see models for them? I mean I'd like to think so but with the shift moving to prospero at the end of the year I really don't know. The last thing I want to happen is to spend ages converting some only so FW can make fun of my efforts by giving them some snazzy models. Also there's so many characters that haven't been done yet I doubt we'll ever see them all, I would however like to think we'd see the remaining two primarchs in resin. Just wondered what everyone's thoughts were. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'll convert whether there's official models or not, so it doesn't bother me too much. Even units with official models have to be converted at some level so your army doesn't look cookie cutter (if you're taking them in quantity, which why aren't you! This is a Legion after all ) Although I am curious what size CML's FW would use for Fulmentarus or Tyrants. Primarchs and characters are a different ball park, Alpharius and Dorn have been waiting for WAY too long. I seem to remember FW mentioning that they wouldn't do every character they wrote rules for, so they could give them up completely to an individuals creative license. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think they waited for plastic Cataphractii to be honest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinsanity Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 That would make sense. That way they could release the two missing terminator units as upgrade packs, rather than full models... Still, that still leaves the Iron Havoks as well as two Primarchs still missing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Personally I don't think Iron Havocs really need their own models, as they are so easy to build with the current kits available. At most a Headhunters-style upgrade kit. I do agree that Alpharius and Dorn deserved models before Russ and Magnus, but it doesn't matter to me so much as it just means my converted Alpharius gets to stick around for longer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenaur Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 I've still not built my plastic cataphractii but I'm really unsure about how they'd take to an upgrade kit, they would never look as good as some of the full resin models which is disappointing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyCrow Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm not sure Lernaean will get their own models anytime soon. After all, they're not too different from the basic Cataphractii kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 IT's great that russ is coming b/c Space wolves will by my next full army but.....good lord can we please have alpharius.......the whole "they have already released him ;) " is getting old. I am ready to get our primarch....three years later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Don't forget warsmiths. If fists and hands got slightly different breachers + slightly different terminators I don't see why they wouldn't do Havocs and Tyrants. Then again we've only been waiting for 2 years. Bitterness intensifies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Well there's still things missing from other books too so don't threat guys it will be released in time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Well there's still things missing from other books too so don't threat guys it will be released in time Really? Outside of various special characters I can't remember much missing from the Legions list or the appendices. Solar Auxillia are missing a few things, though, aren't they? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Lets go through the list then :P Book 1: Justaerin: Check Reavers: Check Rampagers: Check Red Butchers: Check Palatine Blades: Check Phoenix Terminators: Check Grave Wardens: Check Deathshroud: Check Book 2: Pyroclasts: Check Firedrakes: Check Immortals: Check Gorgons: Check Terror Squads: Technically Check but their kit is only a Torso and Head Upgrade... Raptors: Check Gal Vorbak: Check Ashen Circle: Check Book 3: Templar Brethren: Check Phalanx Warders: Check Dark Furies: Check Mor Deythan: Check Iron Havocs: Nope Iron Tyrants: Nope Lernaeans: Nope Headhunters: Check Book 4: No Legions PresentBook 5: Suzerians: Check Fulmentarus: Nope Locutarus: Nope Mhara Gal: Check So thats a total of 5 Legion Specific Units that have yet to get a kit. Next we can look at characters: Note: Forgeworld have said that not all characters will be getting a Character Series model. Book 1: Loken: Check Abaddon: Check Horus: Check Eidolon: Check Saul Tarvitz: Nope Ancient Rylanor: Technically yes Fulgrim: Check Typhon: Check Durak Rask: Nope Crysos Morturg: Nope Mortarion: Check Khârn: Check Shabran Darr: Nope Angron: check Book 2: Castrmen Orth: Nope - not really a big deal, tbh. Autek Mor: Nope (though he has art now so maybe?) Ferrus: Check Erebus: Check Kor Phaeron: Check Lorgar: Check Cassian Dracos: Technically yes. Nomus Rhy'tan: Nope Vulkan: Check Sevatar: Check Flaymaster Mawdrym: Nope Curze: Check Book 3: Sigismund: Check Alexis Polux: Check Dorn: Nope Erasmus Golg: Nope - though the B@C Cataphractii is pretty much him Kyr Vahlen: Nope Perturabo: Check Alvarex Maun: Nope Kaedus Nex: Nope Corax: Check Dynat: Check Exodus: Nope Alpharius: Nope Book 4: No Legions PresentBook 5: Remus Ventanus: Nope Honored Telemechrus: Until we get a UM Contemptor, Nope Guilliman: Check Zardu Layak: Check Hol Beloth: Nope Samus: Check Cor'Bax: Check Book 6: Garro is the only Book 6 Character with a Model out.So, yeah, make of all this what you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I'm saying in general the Thallax Cohort are still waiting on a release and honestly why is it the book 3 legions are always the ones complaining about this? The fact were consistently getting releases should quell the rage inside guys. And really it's like the old joke with the dark angels it's just getting old and honestly it's starting to sound like the chaos forum on certain subjects Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Thallax Cohorts are out and we saw the Ursarax in resin so they are coming sooner rather than later. The only Mechanicum stuff truly missing is Macrocarid Explorator (we've seen the CAD), and Scoria and Arlatax automata, which are the newest additions to the army. To correct Slips' list, Autilon Skorr and Narik Dreygur have models from book 6. Anyway, interesting topic, considering I use both kinds of Terminators with my Alphas. The release of the Cataphractii shoulder pads has me currently converting a rewards of treason Tyrant squad using the AL pads and headhunter stormbolters. Not sure where I'll source the missiles yet. If I knew someone who designs in CAD I'd have them make me some that kind of look like those Chinese mortars but with hydra instead of dragon heads. For Lerneans, I know they will look all scaly and glorious and will probably come with Alpharius, so the wait continues. Havocs will get at most an upgrade kit with some torsos and heads. You can already throw them together just by making a regular heavy support squad and giving them those targeter heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4375943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I emailed Forge World last year about Iron Havocs and they replied saying they had no plans to release models for them. Not direct from the design team like but take what you will from that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenaur Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Anyway, interesting topic, considering I use both kinds of Terminators with my Alphas. The release of the Cataphractii shoulder pads has me currently converting a rewards of treason Tyrant squad using the AL pads and headhunter stormbolters. Not sure where I'll source the missiles yet. If I knew someone who designs in CAD I'd have them make me some that kind of look like those Chinese mortars but with hydra instead of dragon heads. For Lerneans, I know they will look all scaly and glorious and will probably come with Alpharius, so the wait continues. You're right about lernaeans they could easily come with Alpharius, the exact same thing happened with Corax and the raven guard after all. I didn't intend this thread to particularly whiney saying Legion "X" never gets an love from FW. My concerns were more along the lines of the fact that I full expect book 7 to be huge, three whole army lists and sisters of silence which is going to put a lot of pressure on the design team to get the new special units out fast. So do you think the focus is likely to shift from models that don't already have models and have been that way for a while? I mean one obvious example of this is that Russ is clearly going to get a model before Dorn or Alpharius. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I mean Guilliman got his damn Model before Corax, Dorn, Alpharius and Perturabo so as much as I hate it, I'm not surprised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Anyway, interesting topic, considering I use both kinds of Terminators with my Alphas. The release of the Cataphractii shoulder pads has me currently converting a rewards of treason Tyrant squad using the AL pads and headhunter stormbolters. Not sure where I'll source the missiles yet. If I knew someone who designs in CAD I'd have them make me some that kind of look like those Chinese mortars but with hydra instead of dragon heads. For Lerneans, I know they will look all scaly and glorious and will probably come with Alpharius, so the wait continues. You're right about lernaeans they could easily come with Alpharius, the exact same thing happened with Corax and the raven guard after all. I didn't intend this thread to particularly whiney saying Legion "X" never gets an love from FW. My concerns were more along the lines of the fact that I full expect book 7 to be huge, three whole army lists and sisters of silence which is going to put a lot of pressure on the design team to get the new special units out fast. So do you think the focus is likely to shift from models that don't already have models and have been that way for a while? I mean one obvious example of this is that Russ is clearly going to get a model before Dorn or Alpharius. There's still 'ole Exodus to come too, maybe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenaur Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 There's still 'ole Exodus to come too, maybe. I think we might see alpharius and exodus released together with exodus meaning to look like omegon given the recent trend for crazy sized bases in the character series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zedmeister Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 How about the Saboteur and the Diabolist? They're technically not done, but are candidates, especially considering the Iron Hands got their Iron Father... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 They're special Consuls that I didnt' really consider much like the Warsmith for the Iron Warriors and Iron Father (who actually has a model in TDA) for the Iron Hands since we dont have actual models for: Vigilator 30k Librarian (sure you can use a 40k one but y'know) 30k Chaplain (B@C kinda fixes it but it doesnt feel FW) Siege Breaker Moritat Primus Medicae (Sure, you can use apothecaries but, y'know) Herald (too new) Those that do are: Delegatus (Atuilon Skorr but still) Praevian (Drygur but still) Master of Signal Legion Champion Forge Lord (Techmarines) So for Centurion Consuls, its pretty much up in the air. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 For what it's worth, Autilon Skorr was destined to happen. There are no less than three concept arts that all carry elements of his final model in the illustrations book that came with the Istvaan collection. The Sons of Horus version for some reason has skaven heads surrounded by ...erm... ==> shaped objects. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 The model yes, that it ended up being an Alpha Legion Character? Doubt anyone could have predicted...just like the Alpha Legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I hope they release a model for the Flaymaster as I believe FW would be achieve the true horror the fluff portrays that I know I would be unable to, plus it is cool FW does the cool bases for each of the different characters they have released so far Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I hope they release a model for the Flaymaster as I believe FW would be achieve the true horror the fluff portrays that I know I would be unable to, plus it is cool FW does the cool bases for each of the different characters they have released so far Remember, though, that they had to tone down Curze from his original concept since it was too extreme. Looking at him now, I REALLY want to see what in the nine hells that Curze looked like... Sadly though, that has the consequence of us probably never getting Book Levels of Horror and Gore on Night Lords models :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321795-remaining-book-iii-units-and-characters/#findComment-4376789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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