Combat_Vet Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I'm trying to build a small(ish) IV Legion force built around the concept of the Iron Warriors as foot sloggers and Grunts extraordinaire.Termie Commandhttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Termie%20Command_zpsp3drgomx.jpgTermie Squadhttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Termie_zpsvxalm2ob.jpgHalf of 1st Squadhttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Troops_zpsr5u9i3u9.jpgAssault Squadhttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Assault%203_zps38grewnz.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Assault%202_zpsifwbpmeb.jpghttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Assault%201_zpsarfqw8oh.jpgAllied Supporthttp://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/Knight_zps6u1wylae.jpg Everything is in varying WiP at the moment. I mostly wanted to get pics posted and create a thread in prep for the up coming ETL (where I will be adding to the force). Also I am trying to figure out why I can't post from my computer and have to use the tablet, so sorry for errors. Any feedback or pointers/tips are always welcome. Thanks for looking! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Nice! I'm especially fond of the Terminator Sergeant, not a hugely complex conversion, but it looks really good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4385204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 I like the use of the classic symbol on the banner :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4385343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 8, 2016 Author Share Posted May 8, 2016 Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words. Being as this is my ETL-V WiP thread I was hoping to get some Frater input on my strategy for this year's event. I have broken down what I have to paint and have it built to the painting stage (I partially assemble before painting). My plan is to make an complete one vow before moving on to the next. Anyway, what are people's thoughts/opinions on this breakdown for the ETL-V Vow #1 15 Tactical marines Apothecary 10 Reconnaissance Marines Vow #2 10 Breachers 10 Iron Havocs Contemptor Dreadnaught Vow #3 Knight Gallant Sicaran Battle Tank Vow #4 Knight Crusader Sicaran Battle Tank I also have two drop pods and a MK-Ic Rhino in my left over pile that I can add into the mix. My theory/reasoning behind the make up of the vows was to get the "masses" painted first before moving on to the "big" stuff. Does this sound like sound reasoning or should it be the other way around? All of it will be enjoyable to paint so it's not as if I have to "get this out of the way first". Would it be better to leave the vows as they are? Reverse the vows and do the "big work" first? Mix/mingle the vows and have big/little combinations within each vow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4388472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 So I am trying to add a HQ choice to my army and I am torn between my love for Chaplains (which don't seem to fit IW fluff) and a Siege Breaker (which I have no real concept of).To my mind a siege breaker is the one guy that literally "breaks the siege" by any means. Whether it be tactics or brutality. With that in mind I began knocking up a mini from scavenged pieces.http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/75B47AEF-AE6D-4B88-8B24-A73E02BE65A0_zpssy1srvnc.jpgI wanted the servo-skulls as a way to represent the "tank hunter" bonus that the guy passes to any unit he joins. The axe is to force a breach and the combo-flamer is to hold it.I also built a few phosphex bombs out of the little nubs that are left over from the injection process on the bases. Everything has a purpose to the Iron Warriors Thoughts? C&C? Is it even close to what a "Siege Breaker" is supposed to be?Any input is always welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4389783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Looking good, liking the wide use of parts and the basing too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4389788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 I decided on a House/Clan symbol for my Knights today. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/9FD2D26A-321A-4E5A-B887-A6A827F1C8AD_zps4da9cdac.jpg Painting it around the battle damage at the shins was a true joy :) http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/0E1C6909-25B1-4228-9F52-B210A5479F53_zpsazuatk2g.jpg I think it captures the feral/pirate aspect of some of the early households fairly well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4390156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Wow, looking great across the board so far man! That Siegebreaker is definitely my favorite of your conversions so far. He just oozes IV legion menace. Question for you. What shade of bronzey metallic have you used on the trim of that tactical squad? It's lovely and does such a better job than gold for the IVth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4390417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 @ Flint - Thanks for the praise! The trim on my IW is done with VGC* Wash (Sepia Shade) in a 1:1 mix. I usually do two coats to give it a richer color as well as allow for more saturation around bolts and in recesses. Other than the different washes, Sepia vs. Nuln oil, the entire mini is painted Leadbelcher as a base. *Vallejo Game Color Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4390454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Awesome! Thanks man. I'm going to have to give that a try. It sounds like starting with a base metal and just washing it the color you want takes a lot of the time out of the color selection process :d Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4391511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 I like the Sepia shade over base metal as it comes out as a dirty bronze, which I see the IW wearing rather than gold. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/263ED4B8-39D9-40B3-8224-77FF10ADA044_zps07fjut7a.jpg If I use "old gold" as a base there is a significant difference. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/40BA8C0A-66CC-4A06-83CE-26C89DF1A3D9_zps0tkmzezy.jpg The two colors allow me to have officers with distinctions while still having a haggard and worn appearance, if that makes sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4391562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I like the Sepia shade over base metal as it comes out as a dirty bronze, which I see the IW wearing rather than gold. I agree. The desaturated, muted nature of the gold you're using means that it doesn't shine out from the silver too much, and really helps sell the force as gritty, dogged and determined. That's supported by the builds and posing, too. They're subtle, understated and convincing, which fits in nicely with your stated goal. It would have been easy to end up with dull, undynamic postures or having the Iron Warriors looking defeated, but having occasional points of dynamism (like the upraised hammer and Praetor/sergeant in the second Cataphractii squad) helps sell them as simply experienced and unfazed by battle. Stand-out bits for me are the apothecary (love that glowing green), the most recent sergeant (great combination of bits) and the bare-armed chap in the assault squad. Keep it up – looking forward to seeing what you have planned beyond the vows. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 The knight heraldry makes me disturbingly happy you have no idea :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 @Apologist- thank you for stopping by and providing insight. The bare armed guy has been a favorite of mine from the time I began building him. I am tempted to do a "trench squad" along the lines of the World Eaters that are falling to Khorne. @HS - I hope it's the illithid aspect and not the reason my GF teases me about it all the time now. If not no judgement. LoL Finished the scratch build on the Knight interior http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/4E6C058C-7675-4FB3-ABF5-1FC5E5AAEFE9_zpswcq735ts.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/4B6D0B40-7FFB-46A7-AA3E-97239093EF70_zpsbkevkwpf.jpg Did as much as I could for my first vow for ETL-V http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/B15C13A4-DF15-43CD-AD74-F1D236F15E6F_zpsohmw5jmv.jpg Tried free handing the Knight carapace http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/0E50588A-9DAD-4A74-84F6-4EB259B465B1_zpss7myhj7d.jpg And began work on my Force Commander http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/6DBE9419-4DC9-4169-BF2A-C96CF75E7740_zpsnbd0izbh.jpg Any guesses who it is I'm attempting? It is good to be out of classes for the summer. Lots of energy and no outlet due to weather. As always any C&C is welcome and appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 And began work on my Force Commander http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/6DBE9419-4DC9-4169-BF2A-C96CF75E7740_zpsnbd0izbh.jpg Any guesses who it is I'm attempting? It is good to be out of classes for the summer. Lots of energy and no outlet due to weather. As always any C&C is welcome and appreciated. Kyr Vhalen? He's the bloke what's missing an eye, right? Nice Knight interior you've got there. The pink fuzzy dice are a lovely touch. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Hah! Those dice doe :D Is that... Erasmus Golg? Nah... Valen? Oh no, are your iron warriors loyalists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share Posted May 13, 2016 Yea it's Vhalen. The hole in the face gives it away I guess.My Iron Warriors are going to be Crusade Era, pretty much pre-fall, which means if and when I ever learn to play the game I can use them as loyalist or traitors. I have Marines Malevolent for the good side, and Night Lords for the bad, This will give me a neutral party. Balance in all things as he saying goes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4392819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalvationOfReason Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Nothing wrong with Loyalist IVth Legion! Valen has amazing stats and wargear. Great choice for a HQ. Like the start you have here. Keep up the great work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4394239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Day one update for ETL-V I decided to start with the breachers as I have been wanting to paint them for awhile now. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/64C2481A-1E88-4FFC-A21E-53D0995A382B_zpszzx2fhwk.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/ECCD6445-E5E0-499F-9BEA-6B3B1BFFA59D_zpsf4fpd2mn.jpg They are still WiP, but I have a wedding to attend today. I am hoping to have the squad finished by morning (except for the left shoulder that is in the mail from FW. C&C, tips, or any other replies are always welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4394986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint13 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Damn dude, that scratchy weathering and bullet damage is on point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4395055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Still working on the ETL vows. I love how much work can be done to tell a story on a Knight :) http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/58779066-34CF-4747-B915-7CE3B586EA51_zpsraw1rfv5.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/3E80A9D8-6872-4104-9C2C-B27845ABBB4F_zpsqdxhunay.jpg The other leg chain will have skulls and a few Imperial Fist shoulder pads. I plan to have helmets from various chapter hanging from the front of the Knight's chest and another chain of skulls on one of the shoulders. I am thinking of it a a predecessor to the later "spikes bits" in 40K if that makes sense. Thoughts, C&C, better ideas are always welcome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4407407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatsquirre1 Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Always nice to see more (possibly) loyalist IW on B&C. Your marines, especially the breachers, are fantastic, and that Kyr Vhalen conversion looks like it's going to be ace. I'll definitely keep watching this log. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4407656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I decided on a House/Clan symbol for my Knights today. http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/Mobile%20Uploads/9FD2D26A-321A-4E5A-B887-A6A827F1C8AD_zps4da9cdac.jpg You don't sow, do you? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4407884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combat_Vet Posted June 9, 2016 Author Share Posted June 9, 2016 @Bjorn - the Iron Isles are reavers and that's what I'm going for. However their symbol rises from the depths (which makes sense seeing as how they are sea faring people's). I found a similar pic with an octopus coming down which makes more sense to me for a space faring people. Progress is still being made and my vows are still going to be made. This one and my planned follow on vows :) http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w291/meadows88/ETL%20V/08016F40-317F-4485-B0AC-7B5A42E73C47_zpsusigsxh3.jpg So much detail on Knights it's easy to get lost in them, especially when you have to stop yourself from adding too much extra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4415595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
incarnus Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Marines Malevolent for the good side Hi-larious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322105-last-of-the-dog-faced-soldiers-my-iv-legion-wip/#findComment-4415940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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