stormbird or stormeagles?

[Charlo]

It's true that if you have nothing in the table turn 1 you lose? where it says so?

If at the end of a player turn you have no models on the table you automatically lose.

[noigrim]

where's that?

[Caillum]

P283 of Book VI: Retribution, under "Victory Conditions" parapraph.

[noigrim]

Ok, not in the core rulebook then?

[Slips]

Core Rulebook would have a similar rule iirc. Ill check when Im home:

[noigrim]

found it, units in transports count but not reserves

[GreyCrow]

Basic Rule Book

If you have no model at the end of a game turn, you lose.

 

Which is why when playing with flying transports, you still want to have a decent board presence to soak 2-3 turns of fire in case the air cav is late.

[Galron]

Interesting, I have never noticed this difference between 40k and 30k. Thats a significant difference but thankfully hasnt reared its head in my games since I play vs 40k armies anyway.

[Terminus]

GAME turn, not player turn. Big difference. If you go second and your opponent kills everything on the table during his turn, you still get a turn.

 

Before book V it was player turn, so null deploy auto lost.

[Volth]

Remember the 1k points thing, minimum sized game will be 4k oer side.

 

Unless it's a Leviathan FOC.

[Terminus]

 

It's true that if you have nothing in the table turn 1 you lose? where it says so?

If at the end of a player turn you have no models on the table you automatically lose.

This is no longer true. Book 6 threw folks a bone, and now you only lose at the bottom of the game turn, not individual player's turn.  So if you have an all reserve army and get second turn, you don't automatically lose at the end of the opponent's turn.