Guest Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Finally got round to reading my copy. I have to say I liked David's portrayal of him, very analytical, always thinking. Got good insights to the 22nd Company, Destroyers. Well worth the read. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I'm glad you liked it. This is one of those things where I didn't jump on the presale. I'm not sold on David's Ultra's.... but I'll patiently wait for the formal release. I did enjoy the BaC novels, but less so the Word Bearer's side from David. Still both were enjoyable and I imagine it was a bit difficult to co-ordinate such an effort. I admit I might just be bitter because that's it for Ultra's and Abnett.... I will miss that combo tremendously. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4400813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Well he writes them better in my eyes, but thats my dislike for Abnett. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4400844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I've just opened my copy, and noticed something on the map in the inside of the cover. Bottom left of the map of galaxy says "Finding of the Lost Son". In the south of Segmentum Pacificus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4406264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 And whom would that be referring to? Is that referencing an unknown prim arch? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4406492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I've only read the first chapter, it's my current 'lunch break in work if I manage to get a few minutes' book, but it struck me straight away as a Primarch reference, especially knowing that one of the missing two was found early on, and this being close to Terra. I'll study the map more on Sunday and post a photo of it, but I'm off today, so can't update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4406646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Interesting. Thanks for the update. I will get this as soon as it's out but I pre-ordered most of the 'special' release novels and had mixed feelings about it. This one I'll just wait on the normal edition... heck I might just get digital. I mean my book cases are extremely full of Horus Heresy hardbacks and.... Arthur C. Clarke... lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4407506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 One thing... Guilliman did not like what happened to the Word Bearers and this battle was kind of a way to wash the bad taste out. He did what his Father ordered. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4410284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 Loved the book, especially the insight into Guilliman's thoughts on his Terran born sons, and how even the Ultramarines aren't free from politicking. David Annandale has done a fantastic job, and I was pleased with the portrayal of the XIII. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4417977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Loved the book, especially the insight into Guilliman's thoughts on his Terran born sons, and how even the Ultramarines aren't free from politicking. David Annandale has done a fantastic job, and I was pleased with the portrayal of the XIII. This does actually sound pretty good. I'm trying not to read too much about it before I read it. Is it set in any particular time during the heresy? I think I'll pick it up regardless. Just curious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4445008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 As far as I could tell from reading, it's very shortly after Monarchia, but it's never explicitly stated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4445876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lords of Preyspire Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Cool thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4445882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix01 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I wonder are they ever going to release this in a non-limited edition version? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4446489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I have had a chance to look into it, only through the first chapter so far. Unfortunately things are not that promising. Consul Gallan as called "Gallon" tjhroughout the entire chapter. A Character already mentioned the "Osiris" incident, referencing the shameful "exemplary battle" from the Forgeworld's Ultramarines treatment in 'Tempest', and all the Ultramarines constantly speak of "theoreticals" and "practicals" (thanks a lot, Dan Abnett), which is really annoying and comes off more like a weird character quirk than anything sensible. There is also too much playful banter between the Ultramarines for my taste. But perhaps it will get better as the book progresses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4484211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just for refference, can anyone elaborate on how Guiliman and the Ultra's treated the Terrans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4484257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Just for refference, can anyone elaborate on how Guiliman and the Ultra's treated the Terrans? Most of the Terrans where in the Destroyer Companies and I would say they were very insular, they didn't fit in and very much liked being Destroyers. Guilliman wanted to integrate them into Ultramars way of thinking and gave them a Captain to try and integrate them more. But Guilliman from what I remember was not a big fan of Destroyers, a means to an end he just didn't like to use, which is a trait you see in Angels of Caliban. It makes sense as Guilliman was a World Builder, of course he was a General and Master of War first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Wasn't Marius Gage a terran? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Wasn't Marius Gage a terran? I'm sorry all knowing one... I will change it immediately, please forgive me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It doesn't change your post about Destroyers, I just thought that a high ranked Ultramarine being from Terra had some significance. I haven't read the whole book yet, so I don't know if terrans are mentioned in any other capacity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Invictus Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It's more that may of the Destroyers are Terrans, not that most of the Terrans are Destroyers. The vibe I got was that there was animosity towards the Chapter because of their role, not their origin, as some of them were from Ultramar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Oooh, I like this stuff about Terrans I can work with that for my Warborn. Thank you kindly! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322608-primarch-series-guilliman/#findComment-4488808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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