Cpt_Reaper Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Alright. Time to justify a future project. I want a stormbird as my Angels' "big thing". Maybe not a Sokar pattern but a stormbird nonetheless. Problem is the 1st Legion lost their last stormbird in a recorded campaign in the current codex history section. Solution: I've justified my chapter's access to ancient gear with the fact their fortress is an old lost 1st Legion fortress. Could a stormbird be in the armoury? If so would the Dark Angels demand it or let us keep it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Bethor Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Well, it depends if there was more than one bird. Jokes aside, IMHO finder (your Chapter) should keep the loot but I'm not the Inner Circle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Perfectly fine explanation, in fact something like that happens in a book with a relic weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Bethor Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Yep, now I remember. Grand Master Nakir of Consecrators have had found a Heavenfall Blade which belonged to the first lord of the Disciples of Caliban, Grand Master Orias. Nakir wanted to return the blade but Azrael didn't accept it. He said: "‘It is not only yours by right of recovery, but you would bring honour to the cousin of my own blade." (emphasis by me). In the same book (the Unforgiven by Gav Thorpe) from which this excerpt come there is a passage about Consecrators mix'match armours "gathered from armouries and forgotten Legiones Astartes depots scattered across the galaxy". So, I think that you can safely include that ugly beast of dropship in your army :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmb_123 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Problem is the 1st Legion lost their last stormbird in a recorded campaign in the current codex history section. I've missed this, what page is it on? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 My bad. It was in the Cypher dataslate. - First Contact? (Unknown Date.M31) - It is likely the Dark Angels experienced their first run-ins with the Fallen identified as Cypher during their quest to discover new recruiting worlds. There are over a dozen entries recorded citing mysterious circumstances, acts of sabotage and casualties amongst both the Dark Angels and their potential recruits. These attacks influenced which worlds were originally chosen (or not chosen, as the case often turned out to be). In hindsight, several Librarians have suggested these attacks were instigated by Cypher. Certainly the Massacre on Olney and the loss of the Legion's last remaining Stormbird on the moons of Sestus bear his mysterious hallmarks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I wouldn't get hung up on such details. cortex is supposed to be the last remaining jetbike as well and.. Yeah, nobody bats an eye when a successor "Sammael" rides one. The Imperium is such a big place that you never know when you will find a cache of relics... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4402786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 Cheers all. Now to research stormbird patterns. My current theory is that the warhawk IV is the old epic marine lander and the sokar pattern is halfway between that and the thunderhawk. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4403358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Yeah. The one FW is making holds about 50 marines. But there are other patterns talked about in the books that can hold up to a full company, 100 marines (I don't know if that also includes vehicles like rhinos or not.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4403383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 MOAR HEADCANNON! There would be the standard Warhawk IV that can deploy 100 marines, a couple of tanks (say 4 rhino class, 4 land raider proteus or a pair of Spartans) and a logistical version that carries tanks and supplies. The logistical version is the Epic lander and the gunship is the Warhawk IV. I'm calling the logistical version the Nephoros, the only other named variant of the stormbird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322640-the-stormbird-and-diy-successors/#findComment-4403435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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