Grishnak Sisters

[Irbis]

http://cs626317.vk.me/v626317922/3b57/B5442xiM-9A.jpg

http://cs633727.vk.me/v633727922/26651/vwxnll27Aao.jpg

http://cs633727.vk.me/v633727922/26638/A6_l6_kisPg.jpg

http://cs633727.vk.me/v633727922/26649/b6k-p4cJiIw.jpg

By small Russian company. Also, unboxing video. Opinion?

[Drider]

I think they look really good! Almost suspiciously so... If this is the work of a guy in a basement molding his own then it bitch slaps the rumors that GW was trying to make plastic sisters but keeps delaying it because they couldn't figure out how to do the cloth parts right...

 

The pictures were up on Dakka Dakka the other day with a link to the source site

http://vk.com/grishnakmodels

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/5580/558526.page#8676695

 

and a google translate of said site.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/5580/558526.page#8676715

[Warsmith Aznable]

They didn't even try to pretend they were making generic "warrior space nuns." But they're Russian, so they probably won't suffer legal fallout.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

If this is the work of a guy in a basement molding his own then it bitch slaps the rumors that GW was trying to make plastic sisters but keeps delaying it because they couldn't figure out how to do the cloth parts right...

Games Workshop may be telling the truth when they say they "couldn't figure out how to do the cloth parts right," meaning the sculptors they hired to sculpt the Adepta Sororitas, are INCOMPETENT.

 

Forge World's Primarchs demonstrates the company DOES have competent sculptors in its employ, but these sculptors are NOT being asked to sculpt new Adepta Sororitas models.

 

You'd think the company would realize its INACTION will only drive more customers into third parties' arms.

[Warsmith Aznable]

Hopefully it irritates GW enough that they move up the Sisters rerelease. But you kniw what they say about hope...

[BitsHammer]

I think people are forgetting that GW molds in plastic which has limitations that resin, which this guy is clearly molding in, does not in terms of things like undercuts.

 

Also it was the sleeves not casting properly that were the issue, not the tabard portion of the robes.

 

That aside, the faces aside, I like these. Good size, good proportions and good detail. I'd totally buy an Army of these if I could afford it assuming I could go full helmets.

[WarriorFish]

Who'd want faces when the Sabbat helm is an option? :P

 

More seriously these are very good, maybe a little skinny but the quality is something to admire. The issue is how GW they are, from a purchasing point of view only but as mentioned being in Russia probably not that much GW can effectively do?

[Drider]

you could head swap some other 3rd party heads. all sorts of easy conversions like that could be done on those models without having the single cast pewter models.

Who'd want faces when the Sabbat helm is an option?

More seriously these are very good, maybe a little skinny but the quality is something to admire. The issue is how GW they are, from a purchasing point of view only but as mentioned being in Russia probably not that much GW can effectively do?

They could slap you on the wrist and tell you never to play in a GW store again. without a keen eye and knowledge of what to look for they would probably pass muster until someone wanted to pick one up for a closer look.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Also it was the sleeves not casting properly that were the issue, not the tabard portion of the robes.

Why doesn't Games Workshop redesign the Sisters' arms to be sleeveless? (Without cloth sleeves, of course- they still need ceramite armor to protect their arms.)

[Servant of Dante]

Wow . . . I never though I see 3rd party models that LOOK LIKE SISTERS!!!

 

Probably going to stick to the GW ones anyway.

 

Oh, and the Chaplet Ecclesiasticus is completely wrong.

 

I like the sister superior models though

 

Also it was the sleeves not casting properly that were the issue, not the tabard portion of the robes.

Why doesn't Games Workshop redesign the Sisters' arms to be sleeveless? (Without cloth sleeves, of course- they still need ceramite armor to protect their arms.)

 

See, but I like the atheistic, and I really don't want to see anything change (even something minor like that)

[BitsHammer]

 

 

Also it was the sleeves not casting properly that were the issue, not the tabard portion of the robes.

Why doesn't Games Workshop redesign the Sisters' arms to be sleeveless? (Without cloth sleeves, of course- they still need ceramite armor to protect their arms.)

No idea. Maybe they will. Or maybe they think the shoulder armour looks weird without the thicker cloth sleeves. All I know is what they stated as the official reason for past issues.

[Olis]

Despite the potential IP issue that GW has on their hands... they'd be fools not to look at these and take notes (says some schmuck on the internet who's not an industry insider...). For what it's worth, I am fairly impressed by how these models look. I like the skinny nature of them, along with the multipart-style kits. For third party stuff, it appears to be of quite a high standard. 

[Aqui]

On the one hand, they are far superior to Raging Heroes' models. On the other, supporting this company is more likely to make it even less likely that GW will reboot the Sisters proper (as in, if the majority of Sisters players get these instead of the existing ones, GW will notice the fall in revenue and will more than likely cut their losses. Or it might galvanise them to taking action at last. Who knows?). So, until GW either reboots them or Squats them, my models will be metal.

[Warsmith Aznable]

The real irony will happen when the Chinese recasters make these available.

[Drider]

The real irony will happen when the Chinese recasters make these available.

 

:cuss... that's meta

[BitsHammer]

I don't know if GW would see a loss in profits from a line that they keep discontinuing models from Everytime a mold wears out. Not a lot of real profits there when you keep cutting your own potential profits off.

[Minigiant]

Thank you so much for sharing these, while I will stick predominantly to the classic metal GW models, these will be great to just add some slight variation, as well as provide the pieces needed for me to convert some models

[Nomus Sardauk]

Honestly, have GW forgotten the entire concept of supply-and-demand? The market demands new Sisters models but they refuse to supply them, so we don't give then our money and everyone is miserable, but if these Third Party Companies can provide what Games Workshop refuses to then what reason have we to not take our business elsewhere? It's our right as consumers goddamnit, and the idea that we shouldn't be allowed to use these Third Party models just because they come from another said companies is the height of childish spite and pettiness, it's a Company that's dominated the market for years throwing it's metaphorical toys out of the pram and crying foul because you chose not to put up with their bull. GW need to learn that if they doesn't want us using their competitors' products then they need TO MAN THE UP AND START ACTUALLY COMPETING. They need to give a about what their customer base wants and provide a better product than their rivals or their business will dry up as people grow tired of their nonsense and leave.

[Aqui]

No one said that players can't use third party models - GW themselves haven't said it. However, GW are within their rights to state that non GW models are not allowed in their stores. It's a reasonable thing to say. I wouldn't have a problem playing against someone with these (or even RH models), but as I play my games in a GW store, I can't and won't use these models.

[Drider]

Supply-and-demand doesn't come into it in regards to GW and Sisters players. Their core philosophy seems to be "Treat 'em mean. keep 'em keen!"

[BitsHammer]

Refusal implies there was ever a time they said they wouldn't update the Army or keep it around (aka squatting). What's going on is a company that has in the past had difficulties updating the army and either is now using newer equipment to work on updates now, or hasn't finished working on the updates.

 

For all we know they may have decided to rework the Sisters line to compensate for the mold limitations and like the Dark Eldar are slowly working on a new line from scratch.

 

We can't begin to presume the circumstances with what little we know but constantly ascribing malice to the design team seems rather silly.

[Naminé]

First off, these models look great, and I will certainly be acquiring some if possible in the future :) If GW did see a fall in profits from people hopping to this alternative, and used that to cut the line more, well that's just bad business on their part, and we owe them nothing.

 

Second thing, I'd rather this thread remained a discussion about the alternative models and their uses, and not have it devolve into another 'why won't GW update sisters' rant. We already have a thread for that.

[Bjorn Firewalker]

Honestly, have GW forgotten the entire concept of supply-and-demand? The market demands new Sisters models but they refuse to supply them, so we don't give then our money and everyone is miserable, but if these Third Party Companies can provide what Games Workshop refuses to then what reason have we to not take our business elsewhere? It's our right as consumers goddamnit, and the idea that we shouldn't be allowed to use these Third Party models just because they come from another said companies is the height of childish spite and pettiness, it's a Company that's dominated the market for years throwing it's metaphorical toys out of the pram and crying foul because you chose not to put up with their bull. GW need to learn that if they doesn't want us using their competitors' products then they need TO MAN THE UP AND START ACTUALLY COMPETING. They need to give a about what their customer base wants and provide a better product than their rivals or their business will dry up as people grow tired of their nonsense and leave.

Hell, just look at the mess regarding "Spots the Space Marine" (see the BBC, Electronic Frontier Foundation, The Guardian, and Huffington Post articles). Instead of protecting IP they ACTUALLY OWN and spending money to update this IP and keep them fresh in customers and potential customers' minds, they wast time and money hiring lawyers for what is guaranteed to be frivolous lawsuits.

[Olis]

Second thing, I'd rather this thread remained a discussion about the alternative models and their uses, and not have it devolve into another 'why won't GW update sisters' rant. We already have a thread for that.

 

This. Definitely this. If anyone wants to rant or whinge, here is not the place. We all understand the frustrations involved in playing and collecting a faction that's been, for want of a better word, neglected. But rants do nothing for the community. Standing up and being counted is one thing, being a positive force for a change to the status quo is better by a country mile.

[Minigiant]

How do you purchase these, anyone know? Translated most of the links with no luck