Ahazra Redth Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Just a point of curiosity... So I don't quite understand Dark Angels, but I do know that Ravenwing has their own shoulder pads, right? So if a member of the Ravenwing were to join the Deathwatch, would the shoulder pad they were retaining their legion be a Dark Angel pad or a Ravenwing pad? Does anyone have any ideas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 My guess is that they wear the DA-pad, since that is their Chapter badge. The ravenwing, and their emblem, is just a company. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Syddraf Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I would strongly doubt any member of the Deathwing or Ravenwing are in the Deathwatch purely as they know to much to be that close to the Inquisition. Much better to have a lower ranked brother serve to keep the secrets safe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbadoo Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I agree. Very doubtful that any DW or RW (i.e. those with certain Chapter knowledge) would be seconded to the Deathwatch. Better to send a Greenwing member, veteran or not, as they have everything to learn from the Deathwatch (i.e. acting as DA eyes and ears within an Inquisition-controlled force) and nothing to give up in return (i.e. can't reveal secret Chapter knowledge, under duress or otherwise, because they don't know anything). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 On the other hand, I think RW and DW would be perfect for Deathwatch because they can filter the good nuggets of information better than anyone else! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I found this on the deathwing article on the wiki. It actually makes sense for inner circle to be in the deathwatch. I'm sure by that time, they can keep a secret. On a few, extremely rare occasions, a member of the Deathwing of the Dark Angels or one of their Successor Chapters takes the Apocryphon Oath and joins the Long Watch, serving with the elite Deathwatch, the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos. In doing so, he sets aside his role as executioner of the Inner Circle, but not entirely, for the Unforgiven never tire in the hunt for the Fallen. The Deathwing Battle-Brother’s oaths to the Inner Circle rarely interfere with his duties to the Deathwatch. In undertaking the Long Watch he is honouring the purpose for which his very Chapter was created—guarding the Imperium from its enemies. However, there may be times when the Battle-Brother receives a sealed, keyed astropathic transmission, or a message is passed to him from another Battle-Brother of the same Chapter. There may be some task he is expected to undertake, or some enemy he must engage even while his Kill-team’s mission is undertaken. It takes great skill on the part of the Deathwing Battle-Brother to ensure his responsibilities do not clash, for were that to happen, the Deathwatch’s entire mission within their assigned sector of the galaxy would be undermined. Battle-Brothers of the Deathwing are renowned for always taking to the field in their bone-white Terminator Armour. However, the nature of the Deathwatch's vigil influences the tactics and choices of even the most tradition-bound of Astartes, and many Deathwing who have taken the Apocryphon Oath have chosen to set aside their Terminator Armour when its effect upon the mission would be more detrimental than advantageous. These Battle-Brothers honour the traditions of the Deathwing by taking the bone heraldry and broken sword emblem of their company upon the right shoulder of their Power Armour in place of the Dark Angels' Chapter badge. A Deathwing Battle-Brother must choose to wear either his Terminator Armour or his Power Armour at the start of a mission, and cannot change that choice at any point during the mission. Edit: if the deathwing get to keep their insignia, even in power armor, I don't see why rw couldn't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I found this on the deathwing article on the wiki. It actually makes sense for inner circle to be in the deathwatch. I'm sure by that time, they can keep a secret. On a few, extremely rare occasions, a member of the Deathwing of the Dark Angels or one of their Successor Chapters takes the Apocryphon Oath and joins the Long Watch, serving with the elite Deathwatch, the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Xenos. In doing so, he sets aside his role as executioner of the Inner Circle, but not entirely, for the Unforgiven never tire in the hunt for the Fallen. The Deathwing Battle-Brother’s oaths to the Inner Circle rarely interfere with his duties to the Deathwatch. In undertaking the Long Watch he is honouring the purpose for which his very Chapter was created—guarding the Imperium from its enemies. However, there may be times when the Battle-Brother receives a sealed, keyed astropathic transmission, or a message is passed to him from another Battle-Brother of the same Chapter. There may be some task he is expected to undertake, or some enemy he must engage even while his Kill-team’s mission is undertaken. It takes great skill on the part of the Deathwing Battle-Brother to ensure his responsibilities do not clash, for were that to happen, the Deathwatch’s entire mission within their assigned sector of the galaxy would be undermined. Battle-Brothers of the Deathwing are renowned for always taking to the field in their bone-white Terminator Armour. However, the nature of the Deathwatch's vigil influences the tactics and choices of even the most tradition-bound of Astartes, and many Deathwing who have taken the Apocryphon Oath have chosen to set aside their Terminator Armour when its effect upon the mission would be more detrimental than advantageous. These Battle-Brothers honour the traditions of the Deathwing by taking the bone heraldry and broken sword emblem of their company upon the right shoulder of their Power Armour in place of the Dark Angels' Chapter badge. A Deathwing Battle-Brother must choose to wear either his Terminator Armour or his Power Armour at the start of a mission, and cannot change that choice at any point during the mission. Edit: if the deathwing get to keep their insignia, even in power armor, I don't see why rw couldn't. Well, that's odd. I can't imagine there are many chapters that can use the sign of a company instead of the chapter itself. Nice find! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4406912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Well in all honesty, how many chapters have entire companies that put aside the chapter badge for a company badge? That's why I love my DA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4407016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librarian Kex Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Either way, it'll definitely screw with people who don't recognize the RW icon, as they may mistake the model for a White Scars successor chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/322797-ravenwing-and-the-deathwatch/#findComment-4407114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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