Brother Syddraf Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Hi guys I've been looking for anyone who has used the gem paints from GW. But have had no luck. Has anyone used them for marine eyes or gun lenses or to the really extreme has anyone painted a full mini with them How do you find them? Thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Sadly I am still putting a house back together after a move and a water incident, but I am planning on doing as comprehensive as possible a bunch of images of the gem glazes over different metallic colors. It's just a matter of time for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyberos the Red Wake Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 What are they good for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHIN'! UH HUH HUH! YEAH! Duncan made a tutorial a few hours ago here: I remember seeing one person painting his Raven Guard with red gemstone paint and it looked fantastic. The effect makes them look much more menacing than the starry glassy lens effect the standard method produces. I imagine they're similar enough to Tamiya Clear that you can use them for things like blood. World Eaters might look good painted in white and Spiritstone Red to mimic their latest color scheme in HH6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 They are just coloured metallics, and other companies have been making them for years. Even GW used to sell them (they were removed from the Citadel paint range back when they introduced the infamous "bolter shell" screw-top paint pots). I imagine they are an easy way of achieving a lot of the Legion metallic schemes you see without having to do the two-stage process of bright gold/silver followed by a transparent layer of a bright red/green/blue/purple. Blue in particular has been included in a fair few metallics sets over the years, and is good if you add a little to your dark silver metal basecoats when painting energy weapons or Grey Knights. I think red and purple can be added to a bronze/gold as a way of making the final colour look richer, and green can be added instead if you want to create a more unusual "lost world" gold effect. Ultimately though, they are just another tool/cool paint, and you can use them however you want. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovidius Incertus Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Are these actually metallics? They look more like gloss/clear effects, based on the limited pictures I've seen and not having see the color pot in person. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Are these actually metallics? They look more like gloss/clear effects, based on the limited pictures I've seen and not having see the color pot in person. Not metallics. Think Blood for the Blood God effect, only in vivid green, blue and reddish orange. I'd actually use the Blood for red-red gems, myself. The examples have them painted over a bright metallic to achieve the sparkly gem effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Not metallics. Think Blood for the Blood God effect, only in vivid green, blue and reddish orange. I'd actually use the Blood for red-red gems, myself. The examples have them painted over a bright metallic to achieve the sparkly gem effect. I stand corrected; they looked from the example photos *exactly* like coloured metallics! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 Kaelo used them for his Raven Guard Eyes, and actually did surprise me with it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 So who wants to paint a full BA mini in the red to show me? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 So who wants to paint a full BA mini in the red to show me? Won't work for large surfaces, the paint is too cloggy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stercus Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 I've bought them but not had much chance to experiment yet. From first looks they appear to flow like a wash, but contain much more pigment. I'd imagine they'd dry very unevenly on a large surface. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 They are more viscous than a wash, more honey-like. And yes, they pool and stain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkseren1ty Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 For their actual purpose (painting gemstones), they are horrible. But for lenses, they're fantastic. Effectively, they're dyes for metal paints. They're like the consistency of Blood for the Blood God but with a clearer glaze effect when dried. So... Not brilliant for gems, but you can get creative with them. Note, do NOT try to airbrush with them. They don't thin down too well.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I've got a war colors classic metallic set coming hopefully Monday, plan on doing some research then. So far I've tried them on gold and silver but will reserve judgment till I can try them over other colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4417669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 i grabbed the blue and red ones over the weekend. I'm going to try it on various lenses/lights on my spartan. I figured i'd start out on some of hte interior panels so that if it turns out crappy it doesn't matter, lol. I think they will give a cool effect on the lenses that are two small to paint the regular lens layers on. Might also be able to produce some cool effects on power weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4418564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucio Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 They're a thicker version of the Forge World Clear colours, I've been using Angron Red (clear) for painting Thousand Sons, and the red gemstone paint dries to a comparible colour effect, though the difference in thickness cause a difference in the flow, and thus the end effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4421742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just used the Green on a Wraithknight. After having used BFTBG to paint Red gems on another of them, the consistency is similar but slightly more viscous which caught me a bit off guard. I will say that, properly applied, I think BFTBG dries a bit smoother but is slightly harder to work with due to how it acts (becoming an Blood Plasma Orange color if in really thin streaks). This one maintains color no matter the thickness but, obviously, the thinner it is, the more the color its painted over shows through which can change the effect. For my purposes I had to slap it on quite thick to get the right effect. I'm unsure as to how multiple coats of the paint would work out, however. Due to its gel base (iirc), it doesn't really smooth itself out over a flat surface so a lot of care has to be taken when trying to go for what I was going for. I will say that you can mix the Blue and Red Gemstone Paints into a Dark Purple. I only mixed up a small batch since I didnt have any use for it but its a thing you can do. Heres a link to a side-by-side: http://s1285.photobucket.com/user/stampeeder/media/2016-06-17%2001.33.00_zpszylbo1ej.jpg.html?o=0 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The red makes it look like I could press my thumb into that WK's head and it would squish up! Quite cool though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 The red one was done using Blood for the Blood God, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 those are looking good Slips! Did you put those overtop of silver? I played around with the red and blue a little on the inside bits of the spartan i'm building. My initial thought is that I like the blue better. The red came out looking a bit like candy, but i'm sure its my technique. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yeah, veeeery thickly applied over a silver base.Nothing more that that. The green did take a cleanup layer though to try and fix any dimples in the finish or fix spots I accidentally touched when it was drying.Ill try and nab some headshots later to show you what I mean. Edit: close ups. Yeah, look much better from afar since I'm a rather lazy painter so with the close-ups you can see all the tiny mistakes that I "meh" on. Spoilered for Foul Xenos Content ! If I do ever get a Knight, I kinda want to see if I can do the Shoulder Pads in this method... http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.55.47_zpshadcefnx.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.55.38_zpsdajn3rui.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.55.25_zpsinfdznfu.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.54.48_zpsytw08ibh.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.54.26_zpsyfgr9uip.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.54.14_zpsvxnyugtw.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.54.04_zpsrmtfr1ep.jpg http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a598/stampeeder/2016-06-17%2013.53.59_zpsunsacjto.jpg You can tell that Blood For The Blood God! Has a muuuuuuch less smoother finish than the Gemstone paint by how the sunlight is reflected off the surface. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guiltysparc Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 diggin' it...mine turned out more like the two little green gems in your first pic where the silver is shining through a bit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 They're ace and multi-purpose. I've used them so far for: Eye lenses Optics (Vorax head-bulbs) World Eaters insignia Scopes/Sights Engine ports (for a Lightning so far) Interfaces (auspex, cockpits etc) They've missed a trick advertising them as they do, as it gives the impression they're "only" for Eldar really. They should have done a few other bits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 They did show off a Grey Knight painted with a thin coat of the Blue Gem over the silver armor. But yeah, advertising it primarily towards Eldar wasn't the best thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razblood Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Used a couple of coats of the blue one on some power weapons and I quite like the outcome, it's not too far removed from how my generic power weapons look but with much less effort :D Also used it on some plasma coils over a silver highlighted with turquoise metallic, looks pretty nice. I'll pop a couple of pics up in the morning, once I've charged my camera and actually slept a bit :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323124-new-gem-paints-what-are-they-good-for/#findComment-4422916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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